Monday, June 15, 2009

Bikes & Trikes: American Chopper Part Deux

While some of the show is the same, most was different.The guys from Orange County Chopper (of TLC’s, American Chopper) arrive at the Gosselin home. How will the kids react when the gruff motorcycle moguls - Senior, Junior and Mikey - stop by to hang out and plan the design for Jon’s custom chopper! Discuss it here!

Entertainment Weekly Re-cap on Both American Chopper & Bikes & Trikes

"In order to discuss this week's episode of Jon & Kate Plus Eight we have to talk about the new episode of American Chopper, too. Keeping in accordance with the ongoing themes of this season (separate couch interviews, cross-promotion mania) the Gosselins spent some quality time on their show with the Teutuls of TLC's American Chopper and vice versa. But, in all honesty, if you missed the American Chopper episode that preceded the new J&K episode, you got cheated. Beginning an hour and a half before (yes, folks, if my math serves me right, that's two whole hours of Jon & Kate/American Chopper programming) the AC episode featured more bikes, kids, and all-around fun." READ HERE

67 comments:

  1. I LOVED the spa part when Mikey made that magazine comment! Priceless. Kate & Mikey were hilarious.
    I thought the Guys from OCC were great .

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  2. Yes everyone got to complain about her getting another freebie, but they can't handle that she donated it to The Ronald McDonald House. It was a great gesture, and they could definitely use it. Score one for Kate, and hopefully she & Mickey (who was hysterical and great with the kids) could do a charity event together someday.

    I really liked the episode even though it was like a repeat. It was funny to see Mickey go to the spa with Kate. I didn't get the crack about US Weekly though! Gotta watch it again! My only sadness is that they weren't together on the sofa. I hope that they will again soon.

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  3. I though the episode would be the same one we saw on the American Chopper, but it was diff. I agree I was so hoping that they would be on the interview couch together :( Hopefully soon.
    Looking forward to next weeks episode.

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  4. This was a fun episode! They may have not been on the coach together like I would have preferred but didn't seem as tense around each other as in the birthday episode! I hope things are looking up for these two! Oh yeah, very nice to see Kate be able to laugh about the US Weekly comment!

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  5. I'm looking forward to tonight's episode; I really hope we see J&K interview together on the couch soon. I was watching some older episodes and they used to sit so close, now they don't even sit together (the one time they did they sat far apart) :-(

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  6. Since I'm west coast I haven't seen the latest episode. I have been wondering for a while if anyone knows if Beth and Kate are still friends and seeing one another. I thought Beth was a great mentor for Kate and hope so..... just wondering....

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  7. Babymama, I watched the entire show, but I didn't see anyone complaining that Kate donated her scooter to The Ronald McDonald House? I was in and out doing laundry so maybe I missed it, though...

    Overall, I loved the show, but I loved the "American Chopper" version WAY more than the J&K+8 version. The J&K+8 show didn't share enough of the details. They made it seem like Senior thought Jon wasn't a real man, giving him a hard time, but if you saw ALL the footage, you saw Jon being very mechanical and holding his own.
    I really like the way Jon came across on American Chopper, but it seems like his "role" is being downplayed for J&K+8. It's like he's being written out of the family or something. Sad.

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  8. Just watched AC and J&K and I loved both!! Loved the US Weekly comment and even better Kate's reaction just goes to show she not going to let some trashy magazine take her out. Her and mickey were so great together. What I missed most were scenes where J&K actually talking or interacting. They did seem less tense but still not the same, small steps are better than no steps I guess. At least they're at the same location!! Wish they would have at least interviewed together but fingers crossed for future episodes hopefully they can get back on that couch and laugh like they use to.. Can't wait for next Monday

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  9. min said...

    it seems like his "role" is being downplayed for J&K+8. It's like he's being written out of the family or something. Sad.
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    I felt the same way, he barely spoke unless he was being interviewed. I think they are preparing for the worst, I think they are transitioning to Kate plus 8 which is really sad cause I want them to work it out. I watch old episodes and see them laughing and smiling and you could just see the love and I sit and wonder how it got so bad so fast??? Or did it??? Maybe I just didn't want to see it I think if you watch season 4 you see something's that are different but I would have never thought anything like this was going to happen to them...

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  10. Min~ Ohh I was talking about other blogs, not on the show, sorry! I figured that the first thing they would complain about would be either Kate's generosity by donating the scooter, or the fact that next week they are getting their doll houses. I'm wondering if this is part of the Mother's Day episode that's supposed to be next week.

    I'm hoping that since it's the Mother's Day episode, Jon will actually be present. It will be truly sad if he isn't. As far as this episode, he was in the show more when it was on American Chopper, it was really just on how it was edited. He seemed just as somber on the other show, yet he was there and participating on both. How it relates to them both on this episode though, I'm not sure.

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  11. I agree, I liked the American Chopper episode better b/c it showed/explained more. I can see how it does look like they are showing less and less of Jon. I mean from the footage they are shooting presently (kate vacationing w/out him in NC and watching the kids play in the yard w/ out Jon) it doesn't look like he is in any of it or at least going to be interacting w/ the rest of the family in the future episodes. I just wish they would choose to work it out no matter how bad it is. The show simply won't be the same w/ out all of them together as a family. I don't want to watch them go through a divorce on TV. I want to see them reconcile. I hope they start addressing their marriage in the show soon. B/C I really don't want to see just Kate and the kids, it just isn't the same w/ out Jon.

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  12. 3KMOM~You and I both! There were some people that were offended by the notion that TLC was interested in dealing with counseling in future episodes. I think that may not be a bad idea. If Jon thinks he's going to spend every episode sullen and depressed, it's gonna kill the show. I pray that hes sees how fortunate he is and tries to work things out. That would be so great for the family and people like us that love the show!

    That's why I'm so interested to see how they will be handling the Mother's Day episode next week!

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  13. Does anyone know what the significance of the two dates on Jon's bike were? I didn't get to catch all of the American Chopper episode and I don't think they explained it on the regular show. Plus, I didn't catch on that they were dates until they had changed frame. LOL

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  14. The Ronald McDonald event was cancelled due to a general lack of interest. The scooter is back in the garage. It was in the paper several weeks ago.

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  15. Amy, The dates are the birthdays of his children. On the side where the dice is 2 its Cara and Mady's birthdate and on the dice with the 6 its the sixtuplets bithdate.

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  16. The US Weekly comment was soooo funny and it was good to see Kate get a nice laugh out of it. sometimes you have to laugh at yourself and your situation. It's healing to laugh.

    Boy does TLC have this stuff out of order because next week the get the playhouses that were seen in the AC cross over episodes. Whatever. TLC should hand out complementary road maps to navigate this mess.

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  17. In response to LB: She freaked out when she had 8 kids, so she signed a deal with TLC to help cover the costs. Now people hate her because she is making millions for TLC. TLC is just paying her back for that, and you would gladly accept the money also. Are people going to be mad at the sextuplet family that is on the WE network for exploiting their children?

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  18. Re LB's rant: Omg.. I quit reading after the first few lines. So what.. about all the product placement on the show? Why pick on J&K when it's being done on many other reality shows anyway? Sheesh!

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  19. LB, I agree with what you’re saying. The family is so unrelatable now. During last nights episode it was the nanny who dealt with the children’s lunch, not their parents. Kate walked around with water and just hung out. It’s so nice to see her relaxing with her children, although their way of living is not relatable. It would be so nice to see Kate struggling a little, it looks terribly easy. Most mothers don’t have time for spa treatments let alone the money to have tanning, manicures, pedicures, professional hair styling and own the entire store of Ann Taylor Loft. I love the children and watching them is why I continue to watch. I hope that the episodes become more grounded though and ‘everyday reality’, not reality after fame and fortune.

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  20. I love Jon and Kate and the kids. i have been praying for them and healing of their marriage. I am concerned though. if I saw correctly Jon did not have his ring on during the interview part. His ring was on though during the episode. Did anyone else ctch that or was I just seeing things. I really hope I was just seeing things!!!

    My prayers are with your family Jon and Kate. Give each other a hug. Its amazing what physical touch can do to help the healing process!!

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  21. Re: LB, So I'm a little confused. Are you concerned that they get too many things for free or that they are spending too much money? This is a reality show but it's their reality not ours. Of course it's changed over time becasue they aren't struggling financially now. As far as the kids clothes go, I don't consider gymboree to be a high end clothing store. It's very affordable and my kids have a lot of their appearal on a one income household. They don't have to be living the exact same way as we are to relate.

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  22. D'uh! *smacks head* Thanks Michelle! I guess part of me hoped it was him and Kate's B-days. It's funny to think that with 8 kids, they only have to remember 2 birthdates.

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  23. Melissa said...

    I am concerned though. if I saw correctly Jon did not have his ring on during the interview part.
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    I re watched the episode and he is wearing his wedding ring during the show and interview... I was worried for a minute when I read your post..

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  24. I think it's fine that Kate donated the bike (Ooohn I would love to have that!)

    I just wish she had said "It is so adorable and I truly appreciate it but I would never have the time to ride it so I would like to give it to a good cause"

    Instead she called it messy.

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  25. A divorce might just be in order. The car he bought and all his 'manly' needs. Come on! He will only be 48 when these 8 kids are adults. Taking care of the family is where he should be now.

    I would just like to see Kate smile again with that gleam in her eyes. She's done it all by herself so far - I'd most definately watch Kate + 8!!!

    He needs to get his priorites straight. I think I speak for many mothers who say he is not garnering fans by crying about not having enough 'man time'.

    Go Kate!

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  26. Lots of interesting comments above. I'm glad the J&K episode was a little different from the AC episode. We got to see a slightly different angle on it. As for me, especially during the last of the interviews, Jon and Kate just seemed really sad inside and like they were trying to hide it with other stuff. They're missing the best part of themselves, each other and sharing a life with kids and love. It's like they are not even speaking to each other much. Kate is intent on standing strong and Jon just wants to escape. Made me so sad.

    Also, I thought it odd that AC made this scooter especially for Kate and she didn't even hang onto it for very long. This was a gift to her and she got rid of it after riding it only once. Yes, a nice gesture to Ronald McDonald house, but it seemed odd to pass it on so quickly.

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  27. I thought Kate was a cute mom, back when she wore the frumpy house clothes. Now she is hot, and I hope she keeps spending money on nice clothes!

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  28. "Kate is intent on standing strong and Jon just wants to escape." Jen Santos you are so right on target.

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  29. As a fan of the show, I'm kind of torn about the new season. The premire was very strange, it was like watching a different show. I really want them to work things out, but the show just isn't the same for me. But I loved the OCC guys, they are so great!
    On the 2nd part of the crossover, I was a little disappointed about the lack of explaining on Jon's chopper. Kate said nothing about it. And when the cameras focused on the bike, Kate was rolling her eyes about something.
    Is it worth the show staying on the air, if this is what we have to look forward to? I mean it's almost summer, why does it look so cold?

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  30. As to all the freebies comments, Kate did explain that, I think when they came to Utah. Yes they get trips for free, but the company gets a crap load of advertisment, right?

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  31. RE: the scooter... I thought I heard Kate say, in passing, near the end of the show that she and Mikey had picked out the charity to donate it to, and that it was made specifically for that purpose.
    I do agree that Kate sometimes could be a little more gracious with her comments, but couldn't we all? Sometimes I know I speak without thinking first!
    The whole episode seemed sad to me. Jon & Kate weren't even talking to each other... such tension!

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  32. LB~ While I do appreciate the time you took to write your post, I did not appreciate the comments you made about the family. Just because they made a lot of money in a short amount of time, they do not have to explain what they get or how they get it to anyone. They do not have to jump out of their seats out of appreciation. The comments appeared to be coming out of sheer jealousy, and I know many people do not want to admit that.

    Saying this is a fan site for the 100th time just seems to be pointless.

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  33. Just Wondering~ I'm still wondering why your posting here. Aren't your trolls on other sites? The Ronald McDonald event was NOT canceled due to lack of interest far from it. It was canceled because it was done at the last minute and didn't have the time to promote it properly. They issued a statement themselves to say this, as well as the article you TRIED to link here! UGH why do people try to twist things to make them look bad?

    For the record to anyone that has their posts deleted b/c of attached links: If I don't have time to check them, they automatically get deleted for the comfort of those here. Thanks

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  34. It looks to me like Kate is always with her kids unless she is away from the home working. Jon just disappears needing "time away". Whatever.

    He could find something to beneft the family while spending "time away" just as Kate does.

    I suppose this is what Kate was talking about during the season opener when she made the comment about always being there for the kids unless she was working - but couldn't speak for others.

    And I have heard so many Moms making comparisons to their life and Kates life. Saying things like "I live with in my means". Guess what - So does Kate.

    I admit that my ex husband had no common sense and I had to explain everything that had to be done. I would get so discusted with him. He was an adult too and I couldn't live with the fact that he acted like a child leaving all the responsibility to me.

    I think that is why I identify with Kate. I can really understand her frustration.

    All that being said - maybe they can find a place where their lives can be brought back together. But maybe not. And I think either way could be great as long as its done properly.


    (or maybe this is a ruse to phase Jon out of the lime light since he doesn't like it while in true reality they are still together......)

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  35. heyy what other places are the gosselin visiting in american please im going to florida in august and woul really like to meet them but i dunno where they well be on book tours ect if its ok can u add some more thank u :) lexii

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  36. I think I already saw the ET special. Same ol, same ol' pap stuff we've heard & seen already.

    Anyway--Re Linda's post about Jon's chopper, the first AC episode, Jon did ask Kate to look at his bike and she responded in a positive way. That seemed like a hopeful sign. Don't know yet what that really means, yet.

    I didn't catch the no-ring on his hand during his portion of the interview and I don't know when that interview was taped. It's apparent that Jon has been at a very confused time in his life and is probably still trying to figure out his place in this world (like the Michael W. Smith song).

    But for whatever reason Jon seems to be bailing, and for a lot of couples, I think it's easy to forget that we moms and dads can have very different styles of parenting due to differences in our personalities. Kate has her way; Jon has his. Sometimes I get frustrated at my husband, too, because I tend to be more detailed oriented ad much more organized than he. Maybe that's why I identify with Kate so much.

    It's not that one is any better at parenting or handling the household, each has different styles and/or roles. In that respect I think J&K just got confused and so haven't quite understood nor appreciated each other's differences enough.

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  37. BabyMama... Just a thought...perhaps you could install a disclaimer of sorts as a header up at the top explaining that since this is a fan only forum and moderated; disparaging comments will be deleted or edited out. Might help save you a little more time.

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  38. Sue, If it's the same old negative and biased press about her that we've been hearing and seeing, I doubt it's worth watching.

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  39. I just watched the episode w/ Paul Sr, Paul Jr. & Mickey....I have to say that J + K seem so very distant...I would think that there would be the few glances to each other here & there...granted we don't see "all day" shooting. I really hope they don't "hate" each other, that they still have some sort of spark there.

    I am not for sure what has changed about Kate..whether it is her self esteem has just skyrocketed or if she is just a show off on every action she portrays...Don't think I am trying to be rude or anything cause I really do enjoy them both & the show (more so in other seasons).

    As for the people that say they cant relate to her anymore...who cares???? I am sure you didn't relate to her in every aspect before...She is still a mother & wife...$$ changes people..some mentally, some physically, some materialistically...some all 3...Think how much it would change you if it happened to you, & dont say it wouldn't cause it sooo would!!!!

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  40. I saw ET tonight and also pictures from the In Touch article and with all of the different opinions are on the spanking issue, I think Kate is going to be vilified by the press and many bloggers. She's a controvercial figure (which is part of the popularity of the show - people tune in to watch her) and I don't think the photos will be a good thing for her. Add to the marriage issues and all of the articles about that and now this, I'm not sure what to make of it all.

    I am worried about the family spending so much time in the front yard (or it seems like they are from all of the pictures I've heard about lately)and the summer has just started. How many more isolated/innocent incidents will the paps pick up and they'll end up in magazines with huge articles written about it. I wish they'd find a way to spend most of their time in the back where it looks like it's more private and more difficult for photos to be taken. Other than moving to the backyard, I don't know what solution they will have for not being photographed all summer - I know I couldn't take months of it! It can't be a good place to be in and I sympathize - especially with the kids who may have to alter their activities because of incidents like this. It's a shame they can't just be kids like everyone else without having their pictures taken. I think this next week or so is going to be difficult for Kate and hope something comes up to distract her from this new issue.

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  41. Baby Mama, I just read your comment above where you said that next week is the Mother's Day episode? Wow, are we going backwards? I'm so confused as to the order of these shows. It feels like they put the shows in a bag and drew them out in no particular order to show on tv. Do you know how many others we still have to go that were taped in May? We already had Kate's B'day at the end of the month, the motorcycle show from May, the tup's birthday. What's left? I'll be glad when they put them on the air in some kind of order - I don't know if I'm coming or going. Thanks!

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  42. "How far does she go when no one is watching? ... Kate's out of control behavior only confirms accounts by the former employee."

    That's preposterous! I mean, my God, I don't even have the words to express how ridiculous that is.

    Haters can't have it both ways. They can't be angry that the kids are, by their accounts, being filmed 24/7 and at the same time imply that they're being abused behind closed doors. Honestly! That's just ridiculous. I hope those media lawyers Jon was talking to last week advise the family to sue these rags for all their worth!

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  43. Oh, and I hope they put in 12' shrubs along their front fence-line, big, leafy trees right at the gate and replace the wrought-iron gate with a big, opaque solid one.

    I won't be commenting on any more of the Kate slander.

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  44. Sue & Just Wondering~ Seriously, STOP POSTING HERE. It's a waste of time trying to spread lies on a fan site. You guys are just plain ridiculous and need to peddle your junk elsewhere. It's amazing how bad they make themselves look. They think that spreading lies here will get them noticed. We all know Kate called the cops the other day because of sickos taking crotch shots of her with a wide lens while she was on private property.. She's entitled to do whatever she wants.

    Shes a good mother and they are good parents. Whatever they do on their property is their own business, and they should be vilified if they want to be on their front lawn. And they shouldn't have to deal with people spreading lies about them either. GO AWAY TROLLS!

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  45. I know that my kid prefered to play in the front so that they could ride their bikes, etc., in the driveway. I would think that is why the Gosselin children are in the front.

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  46. People are out to get this family. It is so sad. I can't imagine my world being so attacked the way that Kate and Jon's is. It's terrible and sad. There is abuse going on out there in the world, maybe the paparazzi should bring light to those families. But no it's about money. The paps sure wouldn't spend time trying to find real victims of abuse b/c that doesn't pay. If they truly did call the cops on her I think that is truly digusting, that they would hate her so much to try and bring her world down in that way. It is SO sad that there is so much hate in the world today! I'll be praying even more for this family.

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  47. REGARDING THE IN TOUCH MAGAZINE:

    Please note that I removed some posts that had opinions about Jon & Kate spanking their kids. This is no secret to those that know the show and Jon & Kate have talked about how they have disciplined their kids in the past.. BUT THIS MAGAZINE IS DISGUSTING AND HAS CROSSED THE LINE.

    While you are free to discuss your feelings and concerns, and voice your opinions about it here, you are IN NO WAY allowed to attack how they handle raising their children. Spanking your kids is a very personal and private matter. And I will leave it at that.

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  48. The photos were taken on saturday so I imagine Kate has been given a heads up that they are about to emerge. I feel so sorry for them right now. I would imagine she feels like the world is against her and trying to take her down any way they can. It's terrible. There are so many other real issues going on in the world that deserve attention not a mom discipling her child.

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  49. I agree that it is a private matter. Spankings and beatings are 2 totally different things also Sue!!

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  50. I agree 100% that the haters as well as the media are out to get this family any way they can. Bringing out something as personal as spanking a child, is horrific and unfair. They should be ashamed.

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  51. Okay...I just saw the Insider bit about the spanking. All of those paps and they only got still pictures!?! And how would they know the reason for the spanking since they are so far away?

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  52. It seems to me that with the world in such disarray, people are looking for something else to get angry at instead of dealing with their own situations. And press readily provides this distraction and to some extent, a scapegoat.

    The press says, "Hate Kate Gosselin, it's her fault everything sucks. Look at all the things she has that you don't. She doesn't deserve those things, you deserve those things. You are a much better person than she is, so nothing that is wrong in your life is your fault, so spend your energy hating her rather than dealing with your own life."

    It is pathetic and I am so beyond tired of it.

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  53. I was wondering why it took a few days for the pictures to surface. Well, of course, I'm sure they went to the highest bidder. I think that paps are scum.

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  54. Wow Yeah they are going WAY too far. It is so irritating how everyone is trying to drag them down. I wish there was a way that someone could stop it or help out. I have only seen them put the kids in the corner for time outs. I think laws should be made about paparazzi also, they should not be able to even be in the same neighborhood as the house is. makes me so mad.

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  55. Wow. This is getting sickening. Poor family. Just because they signed a deal with TLC, and at the time had no idea it would gain them a big paycheck, people now hate them. Calling the police on them???

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  56. Physical discipline has been used for 1000s of years. You smack your kid on the bum, and you should go to jail? Paparazzi will probably sue Kate for the emotional distress caused to them, as they had to witness a child getting spanked. Soon, people will be calling the police for yelling at her kids. Time outs don't work for some children. AT ALL!!

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  57. I can't believe that some people put a "spanking" or swat on the behind on the same level as a "beating." I don't like spanking, either, but sometimes it is called for to get a child's attention and make them straighten up. Some kids respond to a "look," "stern warning," or punishment, some don't, and you need to go a little further. Spanking used sparingly is not abuse. It's a discipline tool.
    And automatically assuming that Kate abuses her children based on one photo... what?! I can't imagine my whole parenting life being judged by one photo... unbelievable!

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  58. Baby Mama, I agree. Spanking a child is a parents choice. It is just another way for the paps to attack this family just for some story. Many parents see spanking a child as wrong and many parents feel that its okay. My husband and I discipline our children very similar to the way J&K do. Its just so sad that people stoop to such low levels to get a "story".

    Onto another thought. Does anyone else think that maybe TLC is editing the episodes to make them look like J&K have more tension than what is really there? No doubt that they still maybe trying to work on things. But, b/c they are constantly being photographed, sometimes without any knowledge, they ALWAYS have their rings on. I know if I was on the outs with my husband and things were going really south for us I highly doubt that I would be wearing my wedding band. I don't know maybe that's just me. But it's just a thought that TLC maybe trying to drag on the J&K drama longer to keep the viewers watching and the fans and haters talking.

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  59. When I saw the spanking issue brought up a couple weeks ago while watching some tabloid show it kind of changed my feelings for this family. I probably wouldn't have even believed it but then I saw video of Kate telling one of the kids they were getting a spanking when they got home I was very disappointed. I've lost respect for close friends when I found out they spank their children and I feel I've lost some respect for J & K now too. I agree we don't want to turn this into a spanking debate but I feel manipulated into believing the time out they use on TV is how they decipline their children. However that doesn't change me from being a fan of the show and I will not bash or hate this family. I just am a little less likely to believe the "reality" of TV.

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  60. Dancnmommy, I tend to agree with you on the TLC editing also. I'm also trying to keep a positive perspective on things. I also think that during the taping of the May episodes and because of the recent pap explosions, J&K could have been rather awkward and self-conscious together in front of the cameras. Perhaps off camera they may feel a little more relaxed. Either way, I know the ratings have skyrocketed for TLC's benefit.

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  61. I keep seeing comments (not here) about this happening "in public"...aren't the photos of them at their house?

    Again, I feel so badly for the kids' sake that this is in the tabloid headlines and out there for anyone who goes to a grocery store or department store to see. So, so, so sorry for Mady and Cara because I in no way believe that they don't hear about all this in school...MY kids know about all this, not from ME, but from their classmates and see the magazines at Walmart, etc.

    So many of the gossip sites usually have the samte photos and stories posted, but I noticed not on this - wonder what that means or says? Have J&K made a public statement on this? If not, do you think they should?

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  62. Regarding the spanking issue and ALL of the other Kate-related issues out there, I continue to believe that she is villified because she is a strong, outspoken, attractive woman. Why does everyone need to see mom's as meak followers all the time? I have always found her strength to be an admirable quality, especially with eight children. I have three kids and feel at my wits end on many days. Good for her for saying that she won't lay down and die..........with all the negative media out there, it would be an easy thing to do.

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  63. Pegg~ Please let me be specific about the fact that Kate personally did NOT ask for the comments to be moderated and clean. I DID. This is my site, and for the millionth time A FAN site, so if you do not like to be censored here, please feel free to go elsewhere.

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  64. tiredmama: on the Just Jared website, it says that Kate made the following statement to Life & Style: “Whether the paparazzi are there or not, I am a mother first. I love my children and when they misbehave, I discipline them as I deem appropriate for the situation.”
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    Good statement Kate! Clearly I'm not for beating your children (or anyone for that matter), but sometimes "go to the corner" or something verbal is not enough. Sometimes a slap on the hand, or a spank on the bottom is what is needed. If some of these other parents actually disciplined their children, we wouldn't have so many ungrateful, spoiled, misbehaving children. You would be amazed at the way that children behave in schools these days -- there isn't anything that someone could pay me to be a teacher in these days-- they get no help from some parents in the disciplining/raising department at home! Sorry for ranting, but this topic makes me aggravated.

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  65. The AC and J&K +8 epsode was really good. I thought Kate related really well with all the guys. But her and Mikey, sooooo funny!!! I have always loved Mikey. I have watched AC from the beginning and Mikey is my fav. However, Jon's little comments were uncalled for. If they are working out their problems, Jon's mouth is not going to help. I like Jon, but his winey attitude is getting on my nerves. They have a babysitter, so he could get a job, if that is what he wants. But, IMO, he just wants to party and hang with his pals. Grow up.

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  66. I just watched this episode last night.
    I understand that there are no helmet laws in PA but I still think it was very irresponsible of both of them to not wear helmets on the motorcycles, no matter how slow they say they were going.

    Kate is always saying she can't afford to get hurt... and even if she could afford to, she could get more hurt than she thinks.

    I also never notice the Gosselin kids wearing their helmets when they are on their bikes. They have that huge driveway they ride on and could easily fall and hit their head. Am I wrong about the helmets?

    My 5-year-old daughter recently fell off her two-wheeler because she turned the front wheel too sharply so it does happen even in a driveway. They aren't allowed on their bikes unless they have helmets on. Sure, it's a pain to take it on and off but better than a head injury.

    I'm surprised at some of the little "safety" issues I see on the show. Since they were toddlers they were given hot dogs sliced into little round circles that are the perfect throat-plugging size. I thought everyone knew you should cut the hot dog lengthwise first. And if they honestly didn't know, why hasn't anyone told them?

    Hot dogs, popcorn and whole grapes are two of the main choking hazards for children age 4 and under, and they've showed them giving them to them a few times in the past.

    I'm not saying they should get in trouble for it but I'm hoping someone points it out to them.

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  67. I am very disturbed that none of the children wear helmets while riding their bikes on the driveway.

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