Sunday, November 14, 2010

Supporting Kate Gosselin, Learning About Children of Divorce

Hello Gosselin fans! Since many of you read other sites and have heard of rumors regarding the Gosselin children, I will not post or talk about that here on my fan site. The fact that the children's names are even out there I find upsetting and disturbing. Especially since this info was originated from a tabloid having a horrible track record of making things up. When it comes to something as important as children, I don't believe or print a word until it comes from the mom's mouth. So for today's post, I wanted to talk about the positives. Supporting Kate, which is the reason for this site. And since I felt that this was an important topic for me to read about, I wanted to write about children of divorce. Below I cited an amazing article. I did not post the entire thing here, but I urge you to click on it's link to read in it's entirety.

We have a new Kate Plus 8 Special airing November 28th. It will be interesting to see how all of corn maze privacy issue plays out. Having young children myself, I know what it's like for kids to act out, grow and develop, defend themselves, and deal with emotional issues. Those that are attacking Kate Gosselin on hate sites must either not have kids, or dealt with these type of issues in a long time. Or else they will know that this is very normal for those going through a hard time dealing with divorce, siblings or just life to have to come to grips with how they are handling it. Get over it people, and stop attacking these beautiful children just because you have issues with Kate Gosselin. Because you may need to search inside yourselves and find out why...xoxox BM

The Effects Of Divorce On Children: DivorceSource.com
For obvious reasons, divorce traumatizes children. They are often concerned with their own security, not with their parent's happiness. An adult elects to end a marriage; a child has that decision thrust upon him or her. The parents acts; the child reacts. The philosophical questions of choice, which reward human experience for adult who makes them freely, are meaningless for a child who sees his or her idea of order collapse when his or her parents separate. A child whose parents divorce may feel sucked into a vortex of loneliness, guilt and fear. When one parent leaves, he or she may fear the other one will follow. Even when both parents reassure him or her of their love, the child may be tormented by the belief that he or she caused the break. Almost always, children worry about what is going to happen to them. From the point of view of a youngster, that fear is quite reasonable.
Children react in different ways with the onset of divorce. Some will be extremely sad and show signs of depression and sleeplessness. Anxiety levels peak as they feel they are going to be abandoned or rejected by one or even both parents. Some divorce situations may make the child feel lonely. This may be due to a long absence of one of the parents. Divorce deranges the idea of order for a child. This is why broken promises -- something as small as going to a baseball game -- take on a magnitude far beyond its actual significance. No matter what the situation, the child will be affected in some way by a divorce. Some children may become psychologically scarred from the experience, and still other children may not be affected emotionally at all. Much depends on how well the parents are able to handle the situation.
Psychologists rate divorce as one of the most stressful events in life, just below the death of a spouse. Divorce is like getting into a lifeboat. For sure, the lifeboat offers the chance of escape from a terrible situation, but abandoning ship holds little appeal because of the enormous uncertainties. The same is true for divorce. From a child's point of view, divorce is enormously dislocating because he or she lacks the life experience to even envision possible good outcomes. A divorcing parent, in addition to all his or her problems, must support the child in what may be the most difficult experience in his or her young life. This is a tough set of marching orders.

117 comments:

  1. Yes it's a real shame. Jon and Kate made a committment to have kids and then couldn't keep their family together. I'm sure this is having a negative affect on the kids, hence the acting out. These parents need to respect each other and reassure each child daily that they are loved and valued. Any professional will tell you that when you speak ill of your ex the kids, by extension, feel worthless and guilty as well. The G's are a special case b/c even what is not said in front of them per se still gets back to them via the media. My heart aches for this family.

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  2. I checked to see if either Jon or Ellen would be stupid enough to respond to this via Twitter. I am happy to report that so far they are not saying a word. YET.

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  3. Well thank goodness for that. I am actually shocked, but happy that nothing has come out about it via Jon.

    Divorce sucks period, divorce in the public eye? Even worse. My husband and I remarked the other day how we seemed to be the minority in the school, marriage wise. There are a lot of parents that are married in the kids school, but A LOT of them are second marriages.

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  4. The same in my daughters school. I will admit to being the mom that thinks horrible aout kids that may get a time out from school for whatever reason. Stepping back they could be going through so much that we don't know about. They need to work it out privately and not have their names printed out so they could be sinlged out. The media is vicious, and Kate should not be blamed because everyone want's a hot story without any consideration for a families privacy.

    Allowing such a horrific story "leak out" via the trash that is In Touch is vile and disgusting. And the haters that are eating it up JUST because it's Kate's kids are even worse.

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  5. I am very confused as to the thought process behind people who blame Kate for being in the spotlight. She isn't the one holding interviews with the rag magazines. Nor is her show on every week.

    The haters and the tabloids have kept her in the media and she is being blamed.

    She doesn't speak against the gossip and hate and people critize her for not defending her and her children. When she does speak up, she is critized for how it was said and her words are turned against her.

    NOTE TO HATERS:

    GET A LIFE, TURN THE CHANNEL, STOP READING ABOUT HER, BUY A REAL BOOK, STOP FOLLOWING HER IN YOUR CAR, AND STOP TALKING ABOUT HER.

    That is the only way she will go away from your lives.

    Yes, I feel better.

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  6. Lori Ann, Loved your story from the other post. I totally agree. Rise above our frustration. My favorite quote is:

    Love despite all reason to hate.

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  7. OMG! The reporter from In Touch just did CBS Backstage live. "Reporting" on her story, she says "according to Jon!"...say it isn't so!!! Jon??? WTH were you thinking? Please tell me that this reporter is lying about you like she did on your kids? I'd rather believe she lied than to think any father would talk about his kids and sell a story to a rag mag to cause grief for his ex. I'm just sick over this.

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  8. I'm on the iPad so I can't paste a link. It's at CBS Backstage Live.Somebody tell me I'm hearing this wrong and it wasn't Jon!

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  9. Linda - if we don't believe that the story is true, then we cannot believe that Jon is the source.

    In saying that if it is Jon and the story is true. I am profoundly sickened too.

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  10. I don't want to believe the In Touch story is true. I don't want to believe Jon was her source, either! I would think even those who are antiKate would want to boycott that publication. And the "reporter" apparently sees nothing wrong with the story since she sure is laughing about it on CBS.

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  11. Story true or untrue... I just don't want to believe any parent would do that to their children. I just don't want to believe it!!!!

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  12. I agree with you ladies 100%. If she truly courted the press like they say, there would be more pictures. We only see her when she is promoting things. Isn't that what most people do that have projects do???

    I will be disgusted if he speaks about this. It will go against everything he says about keeping it private. EVERYTHING.

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  13. It is an infamously raggy rag. This whole thing is going to be an example of what not to do in Journalism classes for years!

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  14. First off, I'm going to send you the link below so that you can see the interview. Erica was in the first season of The Apprentice and is pregnant with her first child. So even commenting on this knowing she's about to have a child of her own is rediculous.

    When she says "according to Jon" I am HOPING she is referring to how Jon said while he was trying to get the show shut down that the kids were having issues because of filming. I am not sure though. The interviewer is a hot mess, can't even get her notes together. But Erica is slick, she throws in a psudo compliment about Kate how she spends more time with her kids do than most moms do. Yes this is true for any working mom! So how is that a fair statement? So I don't understand how any of this relates now when the kids hardly film anymore.

    Either way, In Touch is foaming at the mouth over this. They are in a tie for the most unture info followed by The National Enquirer, so they are probably praying this is true. One again being pieces of sh*t for mentioning the kids names AGAIN.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7054339n&tag=cbsnewsVideoArea.0

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  15. Ok, I just watched it and she says definitely "according to Jon" I think in reference to his tweet. I personally don't believe 3/4 of what InTouch writes. Just by law of average (I think some one else said this too on another post) they are going to be right sometimes. I honestly think it was a positive interview because she kind of takes a jab at the source saying that she doesn't think that it's as bad as they are trying to make it out to be. They still shouldn't be reporting on it though, but since it's out there...they did.

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  16. I'm sure this won't get posted by you, BabyMama, ::sigh:: but why don't you think this is a true story that two Gosselin kids have been expelled? Kate RELEASED a statement to People online CONFIRMING the story, she is also saying she won't discuss it further and wants privacy. TLC was asked to comment by PEOPLE and declined (that is in the same statement released by Kate).

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  17. This statement was released, yesterday.

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  18. Actually Beth, Kate did not release a statement confirming the story. Did you even bother to read it. That isn't what Kate said nor is it what People reported!

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  19. Also, Kate will most likely not homeschool the children, and will hire someone else to do it. On her friend, Carla's, blog...Carla has an entry saying that she (Carla) accepted to take in two more children on Oct. 5th. Carla is a homeschool teacher. BTW, Carla was not a "neighbgor" of Jon and Kate's from their old neighborhood as TLC said she was. Carla is a very old childhood friend of Kate's older sister. TLC just wrote her in to be a neighbor. I have never heard of homeschooling someone else's children but I guess it can and does happen. Anyone else here heard of that?

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  20. Linda, why would People lie about KATE? I thought they had a good relationship?

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  21. Well, wow. I'm going to go re-read it, then and let you know what I think.

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  22. Beth~ No one is saying People lied about Kate. Lets just clear that up. People is reporting it because everyone is talking about it. We STILL do not know if it is true or not. And if it is, so what. Do you want to jump up and down saying what.. I told you so? We are saying we hope and don't beleive it to be the case. Not till Kate makes a comment about it anyway.

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  23. Well, well, well. Thanks, Linda, I re-read it and it's SO CONFUSING, isn't it? On the one hand, I'm not sure WHY People would say, "a SOURCE" close to People told them. I thought People had a great relationship with Kate, etc. Are they selling her out? WTheck? How awful would that be. On the other hand...Kate has to know about this, you cannot google her name right now with about all links (many, many, many links, btw) taking you right to stories about this expulsion. So, my question now is...why doesn't Kate come out dispell these stories, if they are false? This is just so confusing. You'd think she'd defend her kids' reputation, don't you? Arghhh, I don't know what to think, anymore.

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  24. Hi, BabyMama, of course I don't want to jump up and down. Why would I want to do that? I'm just surprised that People would say "a source close to People told them" that's all. I wish the BEST for those two kids.

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  25. Thats why we are all here, I appreciate you understanding that we get testy when we don't know you yet. We apprecaite your comments.

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  26. Beth - Kets be candid about this. There is only 1 story about any expulsion. One, just one! That story is by InTouch. All the rest are just citing the InTouch story. Each of them says,"According to a story reported by InTouch magazine..." . Most, even other tabloids do not want the liability nor the accountability. They avoid it by citing and then quoting InTouch. Pkease go back and look at a few. They re-write a headline to get Google to pick it up as a new story, but every one I've found goes on to just recite InTouch verbatim.

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  27. Thank you, BabyMama. Linda, I'm sorry about my confusion, it's just ODD to me that People said in THEIR article, "a source close to People". Why would People do that? I don't want to harp on it, sorry. I was just shocked at People mag.'s behavior knowing they've had a working relationship with Kate for years..i.e. Kate Coyne.

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  28. Beth - People is saying, a source close to People is saying in essence that Kate prefers to handle anything of a personal nature reported about the children in a private manner. That's all. Neither confirming or denying.

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  29. Have you ever looked at the retractions or apologies pages for these rags? Customarily they wait a week or two, then say something to the effect, we regret that story about so and so now appears to come from a source that was not credible. Yeah, well damage is done then. That's why, according to real journalism ethics, if you can't get a second source, you don't run it. Without a confirming source, it's just opinion.

    As for rags, ... Ever notice that rags like NE have the blurb at the bottom have the tag about wanting people to write for them? Any nut in the closet can get a story published by them.

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  30. Oh, I totally get what you're saying about Rags, Linda. My confusion rests with People. Period. I am shocked they gave that story any mention. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding you,
    are you saying People is a "rag-mag", also?
    ...and I have to admit I'm surprised Kate hasn't come forth and dispelled the rumor.

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  31. I'm not calling People a rag mag, at least a step above that at least. What would be the point of Kate coming forward? If anything happened, it should be handled privately. And, when she spoke about herself to People, the rags and haters said it was all lies. If she spoke out at all, her motives and reasons would be questioned. It's a lose, lose situation for her. The only people benefitting are the advertisers at InTouch, and perhaps the paid source.

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  32. Oh, sorry Linda, what I meant by Kate speaking is that she could dispell the rumor if it was NOT true and hopefully all this trash talk would stop. When people don't come out and say something, the public assumes that the rumor must be true. That's all. Well wait, are you saying whether it's true or not, she shouldn't speak about it, Linda? Do you mean to say no matter what she says people wouldn't believe her? I don't know what to think, anymore. I thought she should address it if it's a false statement to clear the rumors of her children being bullies, etc. I'm sorry but as a mother, I would jump to the microphone and tell the world my kids were not expelled for being bullies. It's just my nature to protect and defend them, I guess. Hope this makes sense.:)

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  33. Perhaps the very best way Kate can protect and defend them is to not say anything. If she speaks up, no matter what she says, it will only fan the fires of another round with the tabloids, as in..."Kate lies to defend her children" Or, "Kate calls it a lie, but what about the source who said..." Or, "Kate denies that they were bullying... so why didn't they do..." Or, "Kate calls it a lie but another source says now 4 children are expelled." Or... You see, it is lose/lose no matter what she does.

    After my divorce, I had one child who burst into tears a lot, which was certainly disruptive at school, but the school's concern was for the child. Because of the young age, the school and I mutually decided that we'd home school for a month. It was just the reassurance my child needed and returned and things were much better. Another time I home schooled for three weeks following eye surgery because we'd been cautioned no climbing, jumping, or exuberant physical activity during the recuperation; the eye looked fine two days after surgery but healing took time. I'm not saying any of these apply to the Gosselin kids. I'm just saying we dont know, it's none of our business.

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  34. Beth I hear what you are saying about Kate dispelling the rumours; however, this has happened a few times before. Kate said that her boobs were hers. Everyone complained that she didn't technically say she didn't get a boob job. There was another story that went on and on and Kate ignored it for a while until she responded on the View and people once again complained about her choice of words. They also complained that she spoke about it on the view as if she couldn't wait to get the attention.

    No matter what she says, they will not believe her. If I was Kate and the rag magazines and I am including People in this because they are sadly using sources now, not interviews, I wouldn't respond. Notice the reputable news sources are not speaking about this situation. I exclude CBS in reputable because that interview was as baby mama puts it 'a hot mess'. First, it is none of our business and second if Kate wants to get pulled into this and respond, she will be criticized for doing so.

    As a mother, I would not even give the magazines the time of day.

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  35. Just read "Two of the Gosselin kids have been deported." what? They ran out of headlines? Where would they be deported to? We don't deport children who are US citizens. How utterly assinine and stupid this has gotten! Ugh!

    Along with the headline "Now that CBS,...and People are reporting that..." No, what they are saying, once again, is InTouch reports that..." which is entirely different. They aren't reporting, just repeating and citing.

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  36. I do agree with you, Linda, it isn't any of our business. It should have never become public knowldedge. The problem and reality is, that it now unfortunately is. I can only say for myself, if the report is FALSE in saying that one or all of my children were "expelled for bullying" and all the other horrible things they have been accused of, I would have to make a public statement, not for me, but for my kids and their honor. I wouldn't really care if anyone believed me or trashed me. My only concern would be that my kids knew deep down in their hearts, there mom stood up for them and told the truth.

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  37. What, Linda? OMG! Where in the world did you read this? Deported???

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  38. their* mom stood up for them.

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  39. One of the sites stating that the kids have been departed described their site as such:

    ...is committed to professional standards and unwavering journalistic ethics, as well as to being an authoritative, accurate and fast source of online news and content...Our editors make all efforts to get the latest and accurate information on every news and review that is published on the site.

    However, their article appears to be poorly written and incoherent at times. I suspect it is a translation issue, but I cannot be sure.

    If I were Kate I would continue to ignore this crap and laugh with the kids at its preposterousness.

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  40. Hello girls, I no longer come here for two more days I'm happy to see a new post Baby Mama ... I thought about what great''if you have problems with Kate Gosselin do not attack children''(think it was good) .. . sometimes it's good to forget the Gosselin family, not for anything more in this comprehensive whole is a thing to see so much bad ... and that saddens me very much ... I wonder how that poor Kate must be feeling, I never could stand to connect the computer and see who are speculated about them if I were her, it's true or not, children are children, and eventually they would prejudiciau to witness parents' fights ... in this case the separation was almost essential for peace of children ...
    kisses to all!

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  41. What will they come up with next, suspended, expelled, deported, departed. Please someone leave Kates' kids alone. We won't hear stories about how Sarah Palin exploited her kids on tv by bringing them within feet of wild bears strictly so she could get paid and get freebies from TLC. No, all of the ragging will go to Kate and it is sad. She is in my prayers. I have nothing against Sarah Palin bearwatching with her kids on TV only the double standard people have.

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  42. Good Morning Everyone!

    My goodness this whole thing is such a mess.

    I agree with Beth that if this is all untrue, I would have to make a public statement to clear it all up for my children's sake--not that the kids know about any of it or that it is anybody's business at all. And Kate totally has the right to address it or just laugh it off for how ridiculous is all is. Heaven help whoever started this whole ugly story.

    jacque--I do believe the divorce was necessary for the children's peace. It is all very sad.

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  43. Happy Monday to all! I hope everyone had a nice weekend.

    I too, cannot believe what an incredible mess this has become! They have really taken this story and ran with it.

    Beth, I can understand where you are coming from regarding Kate standing up for her children. It would be a mom's natural instinct to jump in there and defend your kids to the world. That said, I think things are a lot different for Kate than they would be for regular people like us. I think Kate has gotten to a point where she knows that anything she says can and WILL be held against her. I don't think she sees a point in responding to this article whether it be true or not. I also feel that half the purpose of magazines like In Touch and the like are to goad a person and most likely the folks there are just salivating at the opportunity to have an angry Kate rip them a new one. What a wonderful story that would make, showing an out of control Kate on the cover with a headline to match. Honestly, I think it would be an even bigger mess and I really think Kate is taking the smart road in this case by just not letting those rags have what they want. I think this is very much similar to last year when she was being accused of having an affair with Steve. She never adressed it until she was asked on air by TLC during the separation announcement episode and then it was a very brief and resounding no and she said it made her angry just to think about it and that was it. Needless to say, people didn't believe her anyway and still kept saying she had been unfaithful even a year later. If someone doesn't want to believe something they won't and unfortunately, if they want to believe an untruth, they will too no matter who says it isn't so. Personally, I think Kate has just given up trying to justify her actions or those of her children to the public and I am sure she feels that she shouldn't have to justify anything to anyone anyway.

    As for the interview itself on Backstage Live, I have to agree that the interviewer was a hot mess! Wow, she sounded like a ditz shuffling through her paper. I also felt that Erica was pretty fair. She started out sounding kind of like she was going to laugh about the whole thing while rubbing her hands together in glee but the interview surpisingly didn't take that turn. She actually pointed out several times that these kids had a right to act out and that it was normal and I don't think she was being snarky when she mentioned that Kate actually spends more time with the kids than most other working moms get to. I think she was basically saying what we all say here and that is that Jon is not working so Kate has to support these 8 kids on her own and that nursing is not going to allow her the salary or the same amount of time to spend with the kids and that based on that, she felt that Kate should capitalize on her fame as long as she can. I don't think there was anything wrong in what she said. I also don't think she was getting a dig in at other moms. She was stating a fact that doing things this way would allow Kate to have more time with her kids than a working mom who was not home all day long.

    At the end of the day, I feel really sad that every single move these people make has to be scrutinized with a miccroscope. If you think about it, if Kate was to respond to every little rumour that started about her or the kids, she would be up on a podium all day long. At some point you have to decide to stick your fingers in your ears and go "la la la la la la la, I can't hear you" if you want to have any peace in your life!

    Oh, and as far as the deported story, I don't even want to look that one up it sounds so ridiculous!

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  44. I agree that this whole situation has become a hot mess! A mess that should never have happened in that 1. It should have remained, at the least, private without at the minimum, a second source. 2. Names of minor children should never have been used.

    More than 649,000 returns when googled. Let's say that only 5 people looked at each of those sites. That would equate to roughly 3.9 million views. If, as reported, the viewership of the last Kate+8 Alaska show was 1 million, how would they compare?

    The Alaska show was videoed on terms set by Kate. Her kids got to see sights that many only dream of seeing. They were paid, so money went into their college funds.

    This un-named source with a negative story has accomplished what? Whom has it helped? Whom has it harmed? The headlines attached to this story are ludicrous...suspended, expelled, deported, departed, reviled... What did it accomplish?

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  45. They are going to be talking about it on the view... I really hate that people assume it is true! It has been reported also by several parenting sites via twitter. So irresponsible.

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  46. Monday holiday here !!!!! and Happy Birthday Grandma !!!...
    Girls think it was very harmful for kate plus 8 this story of the expulsion hearing in comparison with the other episodes in my opinion was much more low ... at least I know the children are being educated at home and I saw yesterday the pictures in which Kate was taking some
    copies of some papers, which must surely be on their school! ...
    kisses!

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  47. I've been trying to figure out what kind of person is behind this fiasco. Were they motivated by money, fame (Heavens I hope not) or a twisted desire to continue the negative campaign against Kate? It's wrong on so many levels. It's mind boggling to imagine the person who could possibly think there is any reason in the world to increase the burden Kate already has has to bear. Hurry up Karma--there's no good reason to delay!

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  48. Corrina, I am confused again and/or still?? Your post about: "increase the burden Kate already has to bear(sp)?,". What burden are you referring to?

    Is it the 8 children she wanted so badly? Do you think she now considers them a burden to bare??

    Please don't respond with her being a Divorced Mom. She and her children have made Millions and are better off then most Div. Moms. What exactly is her burden? The publicity goes with the territory, sorry, that's just MHO!

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  49. Good afternoon guys! Sorry we were on moderation for a bit..the trolls are all over the place like flies at a poopoo platter. Listen, I am the ONLY fan site trying desperately to give Jon the benefit of the doubt since I have been accused personally in the past of always attacking Jon.. But heelloo this is a Kate fan site. I put the link up so that you all can make up your own minds as to what you thought the interviewer meant...

    By they way did you see the results of my poll. I only had it up for 3 days and its almost deadlocked! Pretty unusual for this site anyway!

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  50. OHH does anyone know if they did actually discuss Kate on The View? Does anyone know where I can see a recap of today to check??

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  51. #1caregiver--I'm sorry--I would never consider children a burden and I have no idea what she thinks. Being a divorced parent isn't easy for anyone. I don't care how much money she has --I only mean the incredible amount of snark and just plain rudeness that has been directed her way.

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  52. I agree Corrina. It's got to be a huge burden to know that not only do people want to judge your life, some actually wish her harm. I can't even imagine how that feels. And you know what? Sometimes being a mom is a burden, but an acceptable one. Just feeling overwhelmed does not make for a bad mom. I love my kids more than life itself but sometimes I wish I could just put them on pause just long enough to go to the bathroom. And I just have 3, can't imagine 8!

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  53. Thanks CMo3--I know what you mean and I guess it's how a person interprets the word burden. We know Kate wants the best for her kids and 8 is a lot. I only have two--grown-up kids and there were times when I felt overwhelmed. LOL

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  54. Craftymom, I love that about wanting to put the kids on pause sometimes. I wish we had a dvr for our lives, slow motion through the good parts, fast forward through the bad parts, rewind our mistaks, pause to rest when needed, and the ability to to change the channel on people that we don't want to put up with.
    One thing that I was thinking about is that the kids go to a private school. Private schools have a lot more leeway in who they can let in than public schools. For instance when I was in seventh grade and living with an aunt, she wanted to put me in a the private school that her kids went to, they would not ccept me because I had low vision and needed for instance to sometimes move closer to the chalk board to copy things, but I was an a student with a good behavior record. They felt it was too disruptive to the other students. They can also be more academically and behaviorally rigid than public schools. I am not saying that their school is like this but it could be. Sextuplets who were born prematurely and who are going through a divorce might have a hard time with this. There is a lot that we don't know.

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  55. @another mom...My point was I would tell the truth as my kids and I knew it, FOR my kids. No one else, not for me, not the world...just for THEM.
    If not one person believed me, I wouldn't care, my concern would be that my kids knew that I stood and told the truth about them and for them. Period. :)
    The outcome would be no concern of mine, the truth telling would be.

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  56. JON SOLD the story to intouch this girl sayd it in a news report accidentally

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  57. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JWA4uX0qp8&feature=sub

    she slips and after sevral times saying the source she says jon says

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  58. Personally, I do not want to believe that Jon was the source. I cannot believe that any parent would do that to support his position. Although I've been disappointed with his choices for the last year+, I just don't think he'd do it. I think he got caught in the crossfire with an irresponsible, immature pseudo reporter whose ethics are in the toilet. IMO, she used Jon's name trying to link him to it.
    As for Kate speaking up, IMO, it doesn't matter. What's important to my kids is that I look them in the eyes and let them know that although I may not agree with choices or actions, my love for them is unconditional no matter what!

    There are no perfect kids and there are no perfect parents. You don't learn to succeed if you are never allowed to fail. It's a part of growth and life.

    My kids argue with each other constantly at home. While they might never argue with another child at school, learning not to argue with each other at school took a lot of practice. Home is a whole different scenario. Sometimes I ask why they argue at home when they don't at school? They look at me and say, "because you're there...we can vent, mom, and you won't let it get out of hand."

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  59. Mostly what upsets me is the comments that people are putting under these articles. Makes me sick to my stomach. I would hate to be these people's kids, they are so judgmental about some one they don't even know, imagine what they are like to their kids??? All I am reading is stay home with your kids Kate. have we some how been transported to the 1940's???????? Where is Jon in this??? I can't read any of this stuff anymore. I am so sick of the judgmental crap that people have been slinging. Kate is just another mom in the public eye that is being dragged through the mud. We don't know her. This stuff happens all the time around me area. The parents are told the school is not a "good fit".

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  60. OMG! The haters are pissing me off to no end. Why ohh why do the spend hours of wasted time analyzing shots of Kate Gosselin. Are you really running to a blog to attack Kate on what she is wearing or why she does to a Fed Ex store to make copies?

    1. She's not allowed to dress however she freakin wants. Those that are attacking her probably look 100% worse when they go out. Does it make you feel better to sit at a computer and attack a woman because shes wearing legging & heels? Do you wish you looked that good in leggings?

    2. Analzing why she is making copies of checks. or that shes making copies for her kids homeschooling. Why do you care so much?

    3. What business is it of anyone if she does or doesn't have a copier? She is not allowed to go to a FedEx? Theres even someone wasting space on a blog asking why she is only wearing one of her necklaces.

    Please people.. stop making me laugh this hard tonight...

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  61. yeah, where is Jon? after all his children are too ... Linda also think that Jon would not do it, the more his attitudes to what was before me in doubt ... these fiascos and nauseating news may have been Invention of the media, which can be more the''source''is someone close, like some nanny or something maybe someone like Kevin and Jodi who do not deserve to go to heaven, only two idiots who are jealous, and they still go get what you deserve ...
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    more returning to the case now, do not know if the position of kate in not showing up, shall we say, maybe it's right because if I were her I would never bother to give satisfaction on my children to others, better than I was wondering how she is, and how this feeling, the photos of the gas station where she was before yesterday worried me, not for nothing, plus it does not seem very well ... and Lexis and Colly? (I like to call them so:), must be awful to have done''that''supostamete, though children are children, and they have only 6 ½ years, and this happens, like it or are not just kids .. . my babies lol ... and I know that Kate would not do anything cruel to them, as they say are the worst things in her life, her head is very good and I know she would not be hasty ...
    Hopefully news!
    Good Night!

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  62. Joy Baher announced on her show that two children were expelled for rage issues. I posted a comment on the site asking them who they confirmed the story through. I am saddened by CNN lowering their standards to include gossip magazines for entertainment as credible sources.

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  63. OK ladies, I thought I was in the company of intelligent women but for heaven's sake you don't actually believe Jon is the source for In Touch, do you? The reporter was asked a question and was clearly referring to Jon's twitter statement way back in October: "Each of them has experienced negative effects of having their lives so public. Some are struggling with emotional and/or behavioral issues."

    And to the ladies who wish they had 2 minutes to go to the bathroom: My youngest (now 7) followed me to the b-room till he was 4. He didn't like to be left alone. Now the dog follows me in, lol. Ladies, don't forget, you do not have nanny/ies. We are doing it alone most of the time. We are the ones who deserve a pat on the back! Good night all!

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  64. Sarah Palin's Alaska, had approximately 4.96 Million viewers. WOW, that is way more then I expected. It was a good show, even though I fell asleep in the middle of it. LOL

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  65. I agree Lori Anne, I think the interviewee was referring to what Jon had said in the past regarding the behaviours; however, she didn't do a good job of separating the two. LOL.

    As for the bathroom. It used to drive my sister crazy when my kids banged on the bathroom door and asked questions or sat outside and waited until I was done. I didn't even notice because that is what my kids did. And now the dogs follow me too. LOL.

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  66. C3PO - I feel 4U for being soo upset, and I do understand. It's terrible that all the bloggers are arguing about this family. If all sides would just stop it, then the G8 would eventually have their private lives back.

    I know its hard to stop commenting, so look at me , I'm back again. I just hope more people will try to ignore this family by not commenting.

    Have a great week ladies.

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  67. Beth,

    I'm sorry if you felt I was opposing your opinion on defending your kids to others. I understand where you are coming from and that you don't care at all what anyone thinks of your explanation but that all that matters is that your kids know you stood up for them.

    I guess I am looking at things from Kate's view because I am actually sharing this experience with her right now. I have mentioned here that my youngest child (one of my 2 year old twin boys)was recently "suspended" from his nursery class that he had just started in September because he was hitting all the kids. Obviously my son doesn't fully know what he's doing because of his age but still, it became enough of a problem that the school asked me to keep him home until the New Year in the hopes that he would mature a bit more in the coming months. FYI, my twins were born 3 months premature and so sometimes are prone to being more hyper and having things like ADD/ADHD. This particular child is very hyper and can't sit still for very long. He is high energy and wants to have his way and while he has had a problem with hitting at home before he started school, he was never to the extent they said he was at school. They said he would literally start hitting a kid that was walking past him at times. Of course, I was mortified. My kids are usually model students at school. Everyone always tells me how well mannered they are and respectful and that they are raised very well. This poor child is not an exception. He is very polite and smart and precocious but he hits. I have come to the conclusion now that his hitting was his way of rebelling to being at school and away from me all day. My other twin responded by crying when I dropped him off, but this child held his emotions in and took it out on those around him. He even broke out in hives his first week at school and I am sure it was due to his anxiety. Long story short, he stopped going to school Oct. 1st and I recently took him in for picture day so he could at least be included in the class picture and they suggested he stay for the day to see his progress. Do you know that he was one of the best behaved children there? Even better than his brother who acted out a lot that day. I think all he needed was time to adjust to the school setting and being away from me but that didn't stop some people from complaining about him and assuming he was a spoiled kid or something. I wanted to shout from the rooftops that he was not a bad child and I was not a bad mother but in the end, I figured why should I? The people that instantly make a decision that the parents are bad when a child does bad things are not the type of people I need to waste time on. Why should I bow down to people and beg them not to think badly of me when they will think what they want anyway? I can just feel what Kate must have been feeling. For her it is what I went through X a million. She's got people saying she's a bad mother based on the clothes she wears, let alone how her children behave.

    Anyway, sorry for being so long winded, I just wanted you to have some insight into why I felt that way. At the end of the day, there is no right or wrong decision when it comes to such matters of parenting. Everyone can only do what they feel is best for their kids and family and no one object to that. :)

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  68. LoriAnne~ I hope you see that your comment is a bit insulting. You ARE the company of the most intelligent women on the web. I hate to brag, or maybe I wan't ot make light of the comment. But to answer your question, yes there are many people that firmly believe Jon planted the story. Some are not even here.

    As far as myself, being one of the most intelligent mother, mom 7 wife on the web, I will repeat myself when I say regardless of the matter at hand, Kate Gosselin is a good mother who will do what any of us would do in this situation...Handle it how SHE as their mother, sees best. With or without a nanny, which I did have the option of getting in order to go back to work full time. And there is certainly nothing wrong with that!

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  69. Interesting discussion ladies! BM ITA with your 11:18 post:)
    CMO3..As usual you rock, I was nodding in agreement with all your thoughts on this subject.
    Another Mom..OT but did you have alot of ultrasounds & stress tests? I ask because a nurse suggested it may explain my 2yo "high activity". Although when I asked my new doc about it..he kind of brushed me off:(

    When Kate said she feels like some days she is mommied to death...I lol & cheered, & I really meant it! Tasha..now I want to PVR my life too!

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  70. #1Caregiver - re Sarah Palin's Alaska, I was a bit surprised her ratings weren't even higher, like double. After all, she did run for the Vice Presidency of the US and she was on tv constantly ore-election for the tea party.

    I thought the Alaska scenery was breathtaking...just spectacular! Also, I haven't read of anybody jumping on her because her daughter stuck her fingers in the batter (all kids do that I think) or because they fished in a boat too close too the brown bears.

    The only negative I've heard is that it was unfair of TLC to run the series since she'll perhaps be a presidential candidate in next election and it was an unfair advantage over possible opponents.

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  71. I did not see the Palin show...but her children are in it? Interesting :0

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  72. Feeling's mutual momsby! And yes Sarah's kids were in the show. But the new argument is that it only is going to run for 8 weeks. Hmmm...the Gosselin's started out as a special too.

    And I don't apologize for wanting 2 minutes to myself to go to the bathroom. I have been a mom for almost 14 years...I think I am due. ;) As we are still looking for a house I live with my family (hubby & 3 kids), my mom, my dad & Molly the dog (who, yes, also follows me into the bathroom. Throw in the neighborhood kids who just stop by all hours and private time in this house is few and far between. LOL I need those 2 minutes!!!!! Night all, gotta give into the headache and go to sleep.

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  73. Momsby,

    During the 6 months I was pregnant, I had 3 ultra sounds and no stress tests. I was however, visiting my OB/GYN every two weeks becuase I had had toxemia in my previous pregnancy and so they wanted to monitor me very closely for any signs that my blood pressure was starting to rise. Funny enough, it never did and I was hoping I would have an uneventful pregnancy but all of a sudden, in one afternoon, I went from having backaches to being ready to deliver in about 4 hours. They don't know why I went into premature labour, they did some testing to see if I had any infections or whatever and I didn't.

    As for having many u/s's causing hyperactivity, I had never heard that or been told that. My oldest daughter is very hyper too and I only ever had two ultra sounds with her. She was born two weeks late. lol Aside from being a preemie, my hyper twin was always the "hyper" one on the inside too. He was baby B on my right side and he was always jumping and kicking while baby A was very quiet and barely peeped. On the outside, he is the quiet, shy one that is a big mama's boy now. I don't know whether the hyper behaviour of my second twin is related to nature or is the result of external factors. My oldest daughter being much the same way, I can guess it must run in the family to some extent. I have also been told preemies are at risk for attention issues so that is something to consider too. Just recently, another factor entered the picture. When I took him to his follow up eye exams, the dr. said he had a slight bit of lid retraction (eyelid being pulled back causing more of the white to show)and coupled with his hyperactivity, could be a sign of thyroid issues so he suggested a thyroid test. I am hoping this is not the case because he sleeps well and eats well and gains weight well which are the other symptoms, but it doesn't hurt to check. As for ADHD, of course at 2 they say it is too early to tell. When he's 6 and still having the same problems, then we can look into it. My oldest is 11 and has calmed down a lot over the years and was always fine in school so I am hoping my son will do the same. They are very much alike in personality, build and looks while my other two match each other the same way. It's very cool. :)

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  74. I, not being a Sarah Palin fan was pleasantly surprised by her show, but I think it in the context of her quitting her governorship will hurt her presidential aims. I can see the attack ads now. I really did empathize with her difficulties with the neighbor spying on her. That reminded me of Kate and nobody should have to go through that.
    I wonder if the source wasn't Jon, but someone in Jon's camp such as Ellen that thought they were doing Jon a favor.

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  75. Good morning all. CMo3 and momsby - Mine are older now, too old to follow me into the bathroom but that doesn't stop them from talking to me through the door. I think it's just something about being a mom. Of course you love your kids. And, of course you'd love to have just a few minutes to just go to the bathroom. They don't follow and talk to their dad through the bathroom door. What is it about dogs? They do follow you everywhere, lol. My spouse thinks it's hilarious that there are the conversations through the door.

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  76. tashapork - It was a different side of Sarah Palin, and her family that we saw. The fence extension to block the snoopy reporter from using binoculars to see what she was reading was great. In Palin's words, "It's none of his frigging business!" I thought it was a good example. She choose to be in the public, political arena, but, that certainly doesn't mean others have the right then, to observe 24/7. Her daughter's comment about Palin, "She's addicted to her blackberry," was priceless.

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  77. Baby Mama, I was trying to be complimentary, not insulting! Funny how two people can look at the same thing and see total oposites. That's what makes the world go around I guess!

    Have a great day everyone :)

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  78. LoriAnne~I wanted to make light of the comment so that no one would feel offended. You are absolutely right. I'm a prime example of writing something that may sound to me one way but may look different on paper to others. Your my girl and have been here a while, so please accept my apologies if I came off more serious that it actually should have been. Everyone here knows from the bottom of my heart, I don't want people to be offended! Zoxo

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  79. Lori Anne - I think perhaps it was the way you phrased it.."I thought I was with intelligent women but..." which seemed to imply that those who would feel like Jon was the source (disagreeing with your take) were not intelligent. While I just can't believe Jon would sink to the level of outing his kids, the InTouch "reporter's" interview on CBS Backstage was not, IMO, clearly referring to Jon's tweets. The fact that she merged what she said about her source along with cloudy reference to Jon just muddied the waters.

    Your perspective is often different from mine, and I consider you intelligent... Just a different perspective, different life experiences...a different take. :) You are a long time poster here. You will remember that we frequently get people who post here who feel it is their "duty" to teach us all how misguided for not believing their take on things.
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    What many don't realize is how often trolls come. We often get warnings now (thanks) that they are coming and we shift to moderation and try to approve posts as quickly as we can while deleting the profane and disgusting,

    Profanity, vile comments and that genre, I delete along with comments from those on the permanent delete list.

    Posts from newbies or questionable, I hold while I send a text to, or call Baby Mama and she makes the call, not me.

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  80. The haters are destroying Kate I hope she is just ignoring all this crap and not listening. Because the allegations are so hurtfull

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  81. My apologies to all. I have no idea why, once again, only administrator comments are posting. I assure you I have not deleted any posts. I can see them in the queue, but they are not showing up in the comments published. I'm sure it is a coding issue again. I regret that I can't adequately check or change code from the iPad; I promise I will review code as soon as I can check on the computer.

    Unfortunately, while this template has a nice picture, there are recurring problems. Hopefully Baby Mama and I can review together this weekend and try selecting something that will have fewer glitches in it. While Blogger is aware of the problem, they do not seem inclined to fix it.

    Your posts are important.We'll get it fixed as soon as we can. :)

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  82. :) I hope this fix is successful. We'll have to see if posts go through.

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  83. hello
    how long
    baby mama, what you said about divorce
    is actually the children can become frustrated
    but it happened early in their lives
    which in a way is good because they've grown accustomed to and prepared with the idea (even if they are unwilling to accept such)
    Divorce is bad for everyone, but the Gosselins are strong and are on top of everything even the small
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    it seems to have more people coming entrusa and inconvenient to speak ill of the blog Gosselins
    is that right?
    realized by the last comment katefan01

    good night (night is already here)

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  84. News, news, news! ... (Do not know if you already know ...)
    I just saw that on November 28 will see a new episode of Kate plus 8 !!!!!, hope the audience can have more than the episode of Alaska, though the audience of Alaska in my opinion was not so bad so ...
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    Jon about it being the source of In Touch, well I do not know, most kids he loves so much and I think he would not. Maybe some magazines like In Touch own, speak and write news for themselves and not to''mess''say that these are the''sources''.
    Baby Mama very good research, and as we see most people are believing the truth ...

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  85. Baby mama said:
    OMG! The haters are pissing me off to no end. Why ohh why do the Spend hours of wasted time Analyzing shots of Kate Gosselin. Are you really running to the blog to attack Kate on what she is wearing or why she does to the Fed Ex store to make copies?
    1. She's not allowed to dress freakin However she wants. Those That Are Probably attacking her look 100% worse When They go in October Does it make you feel better to sit at the computer and attack the woman because she's wearing leggings & heels? Do you wish you Looked that good in leggings?
    2. Analzing why she is making copies of checks. OR that she's making copies for her kids homeschooling. Why do you care so much?
    3. What business is it of anyone if she does or does not have a copier? She is not allowed to go to FedEx? Theres even someone wasting space on the blog Asking why she is only wearing one of her necklaces.
    Please people .. stop making me laugh this hard tonight ...
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    only now I understood why and who you went to, I just read ... GRRR ....

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  86. Sorry folks for those who can't post. Just got an email from Corrina and others that they were having problems. Please try clearing your cache and then loading the site again.

    We identified lines of code with problems and I thought I had them fixed when I dashed home earlier. We have one twin Cheerleading at home games today and one son at away games. As soon as they end, I'll try again. I know how frustrating it is not to be able to post. :(

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  87. Hi Linda. It's not the "view different from mine" that exasperated me, it was the inability for some to suss out what the reporter was actually saying. I have to remember there are now youngsters among us on this blog and govern myself accordingly. I apolgize.

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  90. Okay, I must need to eat supper, because my post made no sense. LOL. I am going to delete the previous one and replace it with this one.

    I was talking to a friend the other day and Kate Gosselin came up. My friend said, man Kate is so self-centered and a terrible mom. I asked her why she thought that and my friend proceeded to quote rag magazines about what my friend had heard that Kate did on the show. My friend said Kate should stop taping. I informed her that the show only comes on once a month and the taping has reduced considerably. I also told her that the information she was receiving came from non-credible sources. (I suspect people trying to skew the results have responded to your poll baby mama). My friend then started to back track and agree with me. Then my friend said, well at least Kate isn't as bad as Pamela Anderson.

    I realized it didn't matter who the person was, people want an enemy. Kate happens to be the enemy right now because Kate responded to things. Kate is backing away from responding and people will slowly move on to the next person. My friend just wanted to complain, didn't matter if my friend had the right info or not.

    If this again didn’t make sense, I apologize, I need to eat…. LOL

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  91. Woo Hoo Corrina!!! So glad it worked this time!

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  92. facinated, that's why I came here in the first place. Even as a non-Kate fan I wanted to get away from the garbage. I believe underneath the harsh facade Kate is a regular gal as insecure as the rest of us. Folks need to see the other side. Keep up your good work Baby Mama.

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  93. Yeh, I came to this site because people on other sites were supporting Jon in seeing other women, talking badly about Kate, and partying. They felt Jon was entitled to do that because Jon had been oppressed by Kate. I found this site and found that although people were frustrated with Jon they didn’t condone that behaviour and they supported both parents as being human. I appreciated that this site did not support demeaning comments about the kids, Jon, or Kate. It made me sick reading posts at other sites that supported Jon’s negative behaviour and vilified Kate as a mom.

    I agree with you Lori Anne. I think Kate is as vulnerable and insecure as the rest of us. There are things that Kate does that grate on my nerves but I will be the first to defend her right to parent and to make mistakes. I also agree with Linda O when she said that she is frustrated with Jon but still hopes the best for him. I like being reminded that Jon is making mistakes too and he is really just trying to find his way. I feel this way because I have always believed that if I fall from grace, I will have people in my life that will remind me that we all make mistakes and that underneath I am a good person. Last, I agree with, I think it was Firedup4Kate, which said if Kate reads this site; hopefully, she will feel supported because she needs it. I think that going public with your vulnerable side opens the door to hate from others but it also opens the door for support and love from many.

    Baby Mama, your site rocks.

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  94. Lori Anne and fascinated - well said. Yes, while I'm frustrated with Jon's lifestyle and choices, I still want to see him be happy in life and to succeed. Did I like the way Kate sometimes talked to Jon? No. did I like the way Jon sometimes talked to Kate? No. Did I see any perfect parents? No; and I've yet to encounter them elsewhere either. Given their different approaches to life, responsibilities, jobs, etc. I seriously doubt the marriage would have survived even if they never criticized each other.

    Marriage is a hard job. Parenting is a hard job. It's hard and requires constant work even when you are on the same wavelength. Throw in diametrically opposite perspectives and outlooks and the odds aren't in your favor. That doesn't make either one all right or all wrong.

    The only two who can answer that are J&K themselves and I really don't think it's any of our business. Simply because they appeared on tv for 22mins a week excluding commercials, doesn't give me a right to know what's happening 24/7/365, not for $250k, or $2.5mill, or $25mill, or $25bill. JMO. Not trying to convert or proselytize. Just one person's opinion.

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  95. Hi again ...
    I also think Kate makes mistakes for example committed many with Jon, but I'm still defends it because even though there are many things sometimes not so certain that she does, are offset by acts of love for her children after all ... accounts, it is a normal woman, who despite being famous has feelings (obviously!), and as I said earlier and the separation was essential for peace of children (even less so now), I hope the bottom of my heart that Kate back on top, and I'm sure that soon all this about the separation and the supposed suspension is forgotten by the public, and everything is back to business as usual ...
    you guys like me are eager for the new episode of 28 days?, I hope answers huh! lol
    kisses!

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  96. this is my last post today, and that alias is the revolt ...
    grrr Collin and Alexis Gosselin practice bullying? Kate was really getting copies of 9 test scripts for the next episode of kate plus 8? Kate gives spoiled food to their children? she spends more time in the beauty salon with them? Kate has a chance of losing custody of children for Jon?, Well I have the answers and think you want to know right? ...
    Collin and Alexis are cute and educated children, and not, and do not think they would do that.
    Kate regardless of what was taking copies, that's her problem!
    Kate does not give them poor food, it's all enclusive boring with this thing''organic''ridiculous!
    Kate does not get little time with their children, what happens is that it works, will the haters know the feeling of this word? ... I think not!
    Kate God willing will not lose custody of eight, she is awesome and will never have to go through it ... well I hope!

    wow one more thing God gave life to each one, so you idiots (haters of course:) take care of you the ok?

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  97. I personally think Kate is doing a great job considering all the grief she is given by the media, nasty blogers, her ex, and even members of her family who should be supporting her. I have raised five children of my own and now have 12 grandchildren. None of us want to be filmed when our children or others are driving us to our wits end. Frankly I think she is handling it with grace and applaud her. I only hope she reads this website and knows how may of us are on her side. Thank you for maintaing this site for those of us who care. God bless you all.

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  98. Hello everyone! I have missed you all!
    Normally I tend to not comment on my personal life on this site. But I am blessed with an amazing group of girls that were honored tonight for their volunteer work in Girl Scouts. My 22 amazing girls collected nearly 100 coats for the 22nd annual New York Cares Coat Drive starting December 1st, as well as collected hundreds of toys to be divided between 3 city churches for the homeless this Holiday season.

    I was honored and thanked by council for taking on 3 abandoned Troops this year. As a special thank you, our girls braved the horrible rainy weather to be surprised at Dylan's Candy Bar on 3rd Avenue. All the weeks of exhaustion was worth it seeing the girls stuff their goody bags..But my biggest joy was seeing that they really felt so accomplished and proud of all they have done these past 2 months.

    I get to come back today so much stronger in heart & mind. Realizing that their is just so silly and pointless of me to try to take on these sites filled with hate & envy.. I am blessed to have met the most amazing people HERE thanks to my support of Kate Gosselin. And in the end, that's all that matters to me. That, and continuing to be a positive role model for my amazing girls. I AM SO PROUD!

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  99. Baby Mama - congrats. to you and the troops. It makes me feel proud just to read about their accomplishments. Thank God for good parents like you, that are willing to help others. Have a great day!

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  100. Regarding the school issue again- I work at a private school and because of this I am also in disbelief that they would be expelled and lost tuition money. It seems counterintuitive but private schools actually are always looking for more kids or a least to keep the ones they have (read:their parents happy). Example- we started a band at our school and our order was nissin two clarinets. The kids were crying and it was a whole dramatic scene. My principal said find 2 clarinets now and get them, i dont care what it costs. And this was for essentially a few parents. My point is, if this was public school, maybe suspension for something really horrible (hitting in kindergarten is NOT) because they are not losing your money but private schools don't really do this.

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  101. I agree Sarah Grace. Kindergarteners tend not to be expelled, particularly from private schools. Kate may have chosen to home school for a variety of reasons. If this is even true. I am saddened that credible places like CNN have lowered their standards in journalism. I am also disgusted that people are revelling in Kate and Jon's struggles. The media run with rumours under the guise of entertainment. It is not entertainment when it is hurtful and hate filled.

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  102. Correction, I apologize if the kids are in grade one now. I don't keep tabs on their academic level. LOL

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  103. Congratulations and Thank You, Baby Mama for leading these young people and teaching them the joy of giving and blessing others. That's what's it's all about.

    Thanks also for starting this site and to all the thoughtful posters here who always say it better than I could! :)

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  104. No there in Kindergarten rewatch Kate Plus 8.

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  105. Baby Mama – What an awesome story. Congratulations to you and your girls. Your troops, as well as those in need, are very lucky that you are such a giving person!

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  106. And we are very proud of YOU Baby Mama! It's a wonderful thing you have done and I'm glad you feel so above the hate sites now. Things like your kindness with the scout troops far outweigh any joy that can be garnered from fighting against the mediocrity that are the hate sites!!

    You deserve a big pat on the back! xoxoxo

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  107. Sarah Grace,

    I agree with your comment that Private Schools would generally not be so harsh in suspending kids because they would not want to lose money. I feel that in my case, that was a part of the decision to send my two year old home. Although, they are losing his tuition payments for a couple of months, I think they decided that would be a better trade than having problems with the disgruntled parents whose kids had been hit by my child. While I do think they could have worked with my child and helped him adjust to being in a totally new environment before making the decision to send him home, I think they made the other parents who were "wronged" a priority as well as their pockets. I'm sure they wouldn't want several people threatening to pull their kids out of school.

    As for the Gosselins, although their case is not the same as mine, there could have been a similar thought process behind the alleged suspensions. I am sure the school must already deal with complaints because the kids are so high profile and there is often paparazzi around etc., but when the same kids start having issues and lashing out, some parents might just get fed up and wonder just how much they have to put up with. Maybe the school just thought it was better to send the two home rather than deal with a larger group of unhappy parents. This is all speculation of course, but it was just a thought.

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  108. And more about that! ... Grrr
    will be that Kate threw stones on the cross? what does she do to deserve all this?
    Gentlemen haters is pissing me off seriously, when will it end eh?
    My God does not give Kate rotten food to children, where they got that?

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  109. Thank you to the person who made me aware that there was a troll on Examiner commenting and pretending to be me.

    I have now actually commented on Examiner in response below the posts of somebody posting as Linda Original (space between the two words) who was saying some pretty rotten things about the Jones family, Quints. Although I'm sure it won't make any difference, I did try to say the the comments were not by me.

    Probably, all I've accomplished is fueling the trolls more. Sometimes you just have to speak up and say, "What you did is rotten!" (See, I'd be unable to keep quiet like Kate.)

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  110. INF has picks of JUST Lex and Collin and SHOKA. Very interesting.!? What does everyone think?

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  111. If this is true from Us Magazine, it really bothers me
    Kate's ex-husband Jon, 33, isn't a fan of Kate's frugal fits. A pal overheard the single dad quip to his kids: "If you lived with me, you wouldn’t have to eat rotten food for lunch every day." Of course without sources, you can't judge its legitamacy.
    If Kate repacks a lunch for a day and disciplines the kids it is absolutely the wrong thing for him to say that and tear their loyalties like that. I seriously doubt that has such an issue with clean plates because she feels it important to keep a healthy weight. That and the clean plate club do not mix. I am wondering if the whole story comes from some exxageration that the kids made to Jon to get his sympathy and it was let out. Kids do that when they feel they get attention by pitting parents against each other.

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  112. I think the picture of Colin ad Alexis with Shoka is an old one, the kids look very young. I think it being of just Alexis and Colin is meant to give credence to the expulsion story. It is just my opinion

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  113. Welcome Kayla, I am so happy! I just printed a link with the new post I put up! Please everyone come follow me there. I love my new post I created myself. Let me know what you think! Fresh paper tonight is scented with my mom's favorite perfume "Anis Anis" yup remember that? lol

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