Saturday, July 11, 2009

File Under "Disgusting or Devastating" Jon Flaunts Hailey Glassman in Paris

Hello Gosselin fans.......I guess when Kate said she had info that forced her to file for divorce, we now know what it was. True to "early midlife crisis" in the Jon form, he takes Haily Glassman to Paris....From Radar Online....

Jon Gosselin is in Paris with his new young girlfriend Hailey Glassman, who is fresh out of college and has been secretly seeing Jon, as first reported by RadarOnline.com.
Click here for photos of Jon and Hailey in France.

Just weeks after announcing his split with wife Kate on Jon & Kate Plus 8, Jon is flaunting his new relationship. But not only is now openly dating, he’s also trying to get Hailey a business deal, sources tell RadarOnline.com exclusively.

Jon is meeting with Christian Audigier, one of the bigwigs of the Ed Hardy clothing line. And Hailey is there for more than just fun – we’ve learned she wants to launch her own line of shoes and sandals so Jon promised her a meeting with the Ed Hardy people!

Ah, love is grand, and so lucrative!

Hailey is the daughter of Kate Gosselin’s doctor Lawrence Glassman, who performed Kate’s tummy tuck.

Hailey was busted by cops for possession of marijuana, hashish and hashish oil in 2005 and a male friend described her as “one of the most wild women I’ve ever met.”

On May 24 Jon and Hailey were caught slipping into the Bourbon Street bar in Nyack and were caught on surveillance tapes obtained by Radaronline enjoying drinks. As they left Jon was spooked by a photographer out front and fled through the back alley, cell phone in hand. By then, Hailey told pals, she and Jon had been secretly dating “for several months.”

She’s wearing a ring on her wedding finger, doesn’t mean anything, right Jon”?

110 comments:

  1. oh Goodness.......Jon is moving on with a 23 year old, and I'm sorry, but I think that she is just using him for his money and for the "connection" to the Ed Hardy guy......i agree, file this under DISGUSTING!!!! Notice Hailey's wearing a shiny ring on her left ring finger? perhaps it's a PROMISE ring from Jon.....

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  2. My jaw was open the entire time I was reading. OMG! Jon is swine poop. He chooses to go to PARIS. way to spend your family, KIDS, and WIFE's hard earned money. He is the gum on my shoe. What a ............(insert desired words)!

    All I have to say is how can people balme Kate for this one and in fact I have more respect for her now. He is such a child and is NOT being a good dad. why would you go with someone who ha sbeen arrested for drug posession. Jon is "GREAT" role model. Huh! Ug! THE SWINE!

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  3. Hi Baby Mama, I never believe the crap about Jon&Kate, but when I see a picture like this one, what can I say? Now I think I know what Kate meant when she said she had to file for the divorce to protect the children. Do you remember her saying that?

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  4. That is SO disheartening. I'm just embarrassed for the whole family. UGH!

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  5. I have to say that I was really neutral in this split up until this point....it takes 2 to mess up a marriage - they each had their faults.

    But he has totally crossed the line! It hasn't even been a month since they announced their divorce. Even IF it were over months ago - this is so disrepectful to Kate and their family together. I can honestly say that I am appalled that a father would do this to his children!

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  6. Oh Haily just sounds wondeful Jon, she was caought with the possesion of marijuana, harish, and harish oil, she was decribed as "one of the most wild women I ever met", oh she just sounds like fun Jon she's a keeper. This is who you dumped Kate for !?!?!Btw I will not be buying her line of shoes.

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  7. This all is horrible news. Rumors had been swelling but it is so hard to believe unless you see pictures. And that is definitely Jon. I just can't believe what he is doing...and so soon, too. Although we will never really know how long it has been since the marriage was over in his mind. It's really disgusting and an insult to Kate, if you ask me. Regardless if he likes/hates her, it's just a trashy thing to do so soon after filing for divorce. Not to mention that this isn't a stranger...it's someone the whole Gosselin family knows.

    Where is Dr. Phil when you need him? I know many people don't like him, but I wish he had a show where he gave Jon the reality check he needed in front of an audience. Or even without. It seems like no one is telling Jon how ridiculous he is. A 32 year old guy with 8 children does not need to be 'jet setting' with a girlfriend who is pretty much still a child.

    Team Kate! She's no saint, but Jon had me fooled for a long time, but he keeps getting worse and worse, and for the most part, Kate seems more/less the same (I know some of you will disagree with me here, but personality wise I notice a much smaller change).

    I feel like things keep going from bad to worse. I can only imagine what those kids must be going through, especially Mady and Cara.

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  8. OK everyone...disregarding the Hailey factor in this situation...

    ...Jon is now pursuing a dream of working for/promoting Ed Hardy. So, if this means he's away from home at times, for work, it's OK...b/c Kate is doing THE SAME THING. No complaining that it's not right that Jon is travelling for work and not home w/ the kids...b/c Kate is doing that as well. No claims that Jon doesn't love his kids by being away...b/c Kate is also not always w/ the kids 100% of the time. Jon is not being selfish by being gone for work...b/c Kate is also gone for work. Please, no double standards...I think both Kate and Jon love their kids, but, if it's OK for Kate to pursue her dreams...it's OK for Jon to do so as well.

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  9. File that under sucktastic.

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  10. Baby Mama,
    When I saw the picture, my jaw dropped! I am speechless!! I just can't understand how a man (any man) who has 8 kids can flaunt himself with other women. What about Kate? I feel for her even more. I can't imagine how she can be feeling about everything, including this!!

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  11. He's such a pig. What happened to this beautiful family! Money destroyed the both of them.

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  12. Jon Gosselin makes me sick!! I am disgusted. I thought he had values, morals or some sort of decency about him but apparently not. He has lost his christian roots apparently. That picture makes me mad and disgusted all at once. Who is he anymore? He certainly isn't new and improved. More like sunken to a new level!

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  13. god, what a fuck'n pig he is. and people hate Kate?

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  14. I am sorry but i have to say it again, this boy in a man's body makes me sick!!

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  15. Well it's easy to see WHY he didn't want to do counceling, why he didn't take steps to try to save his marriage. He fell out of love with the woman he has been w/since his early 20s to date a girl in her CURRENT early 20s, he wanted out of the marriage to date Hailey. That girl is 2 years younger than me. Wow, I have absolutely 100% NO RESPECT FOR JON GOSSELIN. I feel so bad for Kate, it's bad enough that he's dating so quickly (according to the article he's been w/her longer than we thought) but to date the daughter of the plastic surgeon who turned Kate from her butt-in-the-front stomach image to a normal stomach?? Didn't she not just have that done for herself but also for Jon?? Didn't Kate bond with Mrs. Glassman??? Didn't they stay friends after the surgery back in that year???

    I have lots to say about that pic of Jon and Hailey, but it's inappropriate for this awesome site.

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  16. Oh, this is just too much! Should be over soon, though, when her "business deal" comes through. I can't see a girl just out of college wanting to be tied down to a man with 8 kids. I really hope he doesn't bring her around them, too... her history doesn't make her the best influence. Way to sow your wild oats, Jon!

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  17. Well...now I know why he didn't want to go on with the show. Can't really have the show and his little chippy, too. So sad for Kate and the children.

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  18. ooooooooooooooooo mmmmmmmmmm ggggggggggggggg
    i cannot belive it!!!!!! im in shock!!! pure shock :O:O:O:O:O:O
    how can he do this knowing one day that his children are gonna find out what way he acted just weeks after they split up! their marriage hasnt even had time to settle in the dust, i just cant belive it! i never saw him wisking kate away to paris or anywere just the two of them the ten years they were married!! im disgusted!!!!!!


    talk about midlife crisis!!!

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  19. This is G R O S S! I am disgusted.

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  20. Wow. I'm sorry but this is too funny. Jon and Hailey are so out of their league. Does Ed Hardy wear come in XXXL? It really is a sad situation but he is ridiculous. I think now I can beleive what they are saying about Jon starting the rumor of Kate and her bodyguard having an affair. Kate really did have a 9th child all these years.

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  21. Funny, when I said it was Haily Glassman in the videos, I was told I was stupid on your other board. Jon is a major jerk and although i am not a Kate fan, this is just totally wrong. Isn't he afraid that his kids will "google" him and see this?

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  22. Yes Jon, one day your children WILL Google your name and THIS is what they will find! That their father was dating a much younger female for goodness knows how long while he was STILL married to his WIFE and their MOTHER!! And THEN seen flaunting her around the globe within weeks after the announcement of his divorce.

    Devastating...Yes. I don't see much hope for this family and frankly I now do not believe Jon's "I did not cheat on Kate" speal!

    Disgusting....Yes. This man is really something else!

    I don't care what kind of a wife Kate was....she certainly does NOT deserve this!

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  23. I wish I could say I was truly surprised by Jon's actions, but sadly I am not. We all sat and watched him in season 5 acting so arrogant and when he announced they were divorcing he looked thrilled. He wants to sit back and complain about how Kate treated him, well ya know what you teach people how to treat you and if he weren't so laid back she wouldn't have had to tell him what to do ALL the time. I would have been frustrated with him to especially already having 8 children like she needed another one!! I hope those kids don't see these pictures...

    I just truly hope Kate finds a real MAN who loves her and loves her children. Someone who will say what he means and means what he says. Someone she can spend the rest of her life with and be completely happy. I hope she finds her equal.

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  24. I have officially lost respect for Jon. That's pretty messed up. All props go to Kate for being the strong woman that she is! Jon is being a fool.

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  25. Of course he got her a meeting with 'his people' or are they Kate's people. He'll need another woman to work her ass off to support him. Kate is gone now. I am surprised, no rumors that he is working, are there??????

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  26. Sick sick sick. He is a low life, selfish tool.

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  27. Wow. I just knew all along that this is who Jon really is. Disgusting. There are just no words.

    I hope Kate answers through her lawyer. I know that if I were a woman getting a divorce I wouldn't another woman with a record of possessing hash within 300 miles of my kids!

    As if Jon could have ever afforded to take a girlfriend to Paris if he didn't have the show, either! What a hypocritical fool!

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  28. I just think it's crazy that on the hate-kate site, she was completely trashed for being gone on her book tour, and she was such a "horrible mother" to leave her kids like that.

    And now that Jon is doing it, everyone over there is applauding him.

    ???

    Is it just me, or is the double standard a little crazy?

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  29. How heart breaking, disturbing and...

    Kate... you have all my compassion and support.

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  30. This whole situation is just plain heart breaking to me. I have so much to say, but I feel everyone has pretty much said it for me...

    From NBC..
    According to a source close to the designer, Christian flew out the divorcing dad of eight for the meeting.

    Christian is interested in having Jon design a Bluetooth cell phone headset as he is aware Jon is a fan of the Ed Hardy brand, a source told Access Hollywood.

    I get the feeling that Jon thinks he can totally be a brand on his own now. Thats fine, but flaunting your wife's surgeons young daughter on your arm and not not even officially divorced yet? I feel sick. The kids having to see their dad acting in this way is BOTH disgusting and devastating.

    On top of all this the Ed Hardy Website put Jon in its celebrity gallery. I guess it doesn't bother him that this man with 8 children at home is flaunting a mistress on his yacht.

    http://www.donedhardy.com/gallery.html

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  31. Oh, and St. Tropez is one of THE most expensive places in France.

    Can you imagine how embarrassed the Glassmans must be right now? I mean come on, Mrs. Glassman is Kate's FRIEND! Hailey was what, 19 when they met when Kate got her stomach fixed?

    Disgusting.

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  32. Okay I think someone else said it but, It really looks like she has a baby bump to me. I hope I am not right. But, it was Kate with the fertility problems. She has an oversized shirt on so it is hard to tell. I wonder what Hailey's parents think. I mean her mom obviously loved Kate to get her husband to give her a free tummy tuck, and now their daughter might be a step mom.

    I am also wondering how a gf will effect their plan to switch in and out of their home. I mean Kate would never allow that presence of that girl and nor should she. But I can't imagine selfish Jon thinking of anyone but himself.

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  33. Last week I watched a couple of really old episodes - the one in which Kate got her tummy tuck and 10 Little Pumpkins (first real episode, I believe.) Yes, both Jon and Kate have changed since then, but I think that Jon has changed more. Sitting on the couch, with his arm around Kate, he was wearing a blue oxford button-down shirt. The image he was projecting was SO different fromt the Ed Hardy shirts he now wears. Frankly, I had never heard of Ed Hardy, but even before all the hoopla about them, my reaction was - how ugly! Why would a grown man wear something so hideous? Very few of my high school students wear things like that. I have said this before - Jon was forced to grow up too fast. After all, he had 8 children by the time he was 27. But he never really grew up and he is now trying to live the youth that he missed. I am disgusted by him and his actions. Grow up and be a man, Jon!

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  34. Does anyone remember Jon's comment about "one day my kids are going to Google me"? It sort of sounded like he was planning on getting his act together and NOT doing this sort of stuff. I'm not accusing him of not caring for his children but these are very unloving actions.

    The most important thing a man can show his children, especially his sons, is love for their mother. Sometimes love isn't possible.. but come on.. at least some respect! He is being a horrible example for his children.

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  35. ... and really, what is it with these girls who want fame or think they're more well known than they are coming up with their own handbag/jewelry/shoe lines? SO original!
    I'm curious, too, if Kate & Mrs. Glassman are still friends.
    And I agree with the other poster that said that Jon was working on this trip... there's nothing wrong with that. He should have an oportunity to work if he so chooses, just like Kate. But sheesh - did he really need to bring his girlfriend along when he knows paparazzi are following him and would get pics that could potentially hurt his children? Kate was right when she said that Jon wasn't making the best decisions.

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  36. Hmm... I'm not convinced 100% that she's pregnant. At the moment I'm only going to call it an unflattering shirt. In the other photos of her on the YACHT she looks less baby-bump-esque.

    Speaking of other photos, did anyone click the link to see more shots of her? Such as the one where she's holding a very realistic BB gun to her friend's head? Classy. I hope Kate's lawyer has a copy of that!!

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  37. No, I do not think that she is pregnant either. I do think however, that she is enjoying the fame and the ride just like Jon is. I'm sure his ego is right up there, because hes obviously not thinking about his children. Or his wife, which he still has unless he forgot.

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  38. I hate to say it, but I'm kind of glad that this picture has made it to the web -- now everyone has the proof that they need to see how Jon really is -- there was always the "we don't know what goes on behind the scenes" stuff w/ why the marriage ended (and I guess that is still kind of how it is)--but seeing Jon holding hands with another woman BEFORE his divorce has even happened will hopefully open up the eyes of all the people who blame Kate for most of the failed marriage. I just wonder where God's place is in Jon's heart ... apparently he's decided he doesn't need Him.

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  39. I wonder if Hailey planned this from the start and had her dad offer Kate the tummy tuck to meet them, and planned on seducing Jon so she could get rich and famous.

    I know it sounds silly--but just looking at her face in those pictures, she looks like a conniving, manipulative woman.

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  40. JON, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!?!?
    I just can't believe this! Why, oh why would he go out in public, with the p-people on his tail with his brand new "girlfriend" when he's not even fully divorced?!? He's obviously had us fooled for a while now. I always thought that he was so nice and sweet but guess what.... NOT ANYMORE! I am fuming over this, but mostly for Kate and the kids. They deserve better. I think that I can speak for most people and say that even if you don't like Kate, you'll probably be favoring her over Jon now!!

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  41. I have and always been suuportive of Kate. And while I didn't always think that she expressed herself as well as she could, or maybe said things to Jon I didn't agree with, Jon is a man. A big boy that could handle himself. If he had issues of how he was spoken to on camera he could have expressed himself. Kate would get a beating because of how she spoke to him, but it appears that he never expressed if was upset at her over that in the first place.

    Now hes got a barely legal girl on his arm and hes not even divorced yet. Hes showing her off like a prize at a fair. Bottom line, I always stated he needed to grow up. I never thought he did. Now it only confirms how I felt before about supporting Kate. She took charge of that family and if it wasn't for her, he would be or have all that he does now. Period. Kate might not have been the nicest or handled how she felt properly, but she's definitely looking like the better of the two now!

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  42. http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/Hailey218?hiq=hailey%2Cglassman&__a=1


    Is that Hailey's facebook??

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  44. Well he certainly can't deny that he's having an affair now. Because he is still married!!!!!!
    He thinks this thing w/ hailey will bring him happiness but affairs are never the answer. Of course it's less stressful in his relationship w/ this girl. He doesn't have eight kids w/ her and she doesn't have to worry about taking care of eight kids, feeding them 3 meals a day 365 days a year, they don't have the stress of a morgage together, they don't have a joint checking account and she doesn't have to worry about what he's spending his money on because she doesn't have eight kids to provide for. So of course their relationship is vastly different but if it was haily and not kate it would be the same scenario it was w/ kate and he would do to hailey what he's doing to kate. he's selfish and lost and a bad example to his kids and other men. He is justifying his life and no matter how you look at it he is a married man who had professed his faith in God and his lifestyle is shockingly wrong.

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  45. BabyMama,
    When Jon went sking in Utah and was interviewed with that other sking "dude" I had my fist moment/thought of, oh boy this guy really needs to grow up! I don't sympathize that he is only in his early 30's and that he started his family early in age. So what! The fact of the matter is that HE made choices that have led him to the life he now has, that life STILL includes a wife and 8 innocent children! He is acting like a complete fool.

    The divorce alone is going to be devastating for those 8 children. But then add the factor that their father was cheating on their mother and that is a whole other issue! I pray that the rumors of Kate cheating with her body guard are only rumors!! Those poor children don't need both of their parents being poor role models!

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  46. I believe that is Hailey's facebook. Has anyone seen the pictures of her pointing a BB handgun at her friends head? Just the kind of women, I mean girl, that I want hanging around with my kids!!

    Jon has REALLY changed!

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  47. I have been thinking more and her baby bump is most likely I beer gut....

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  48. I hope Kate gets the credit I think she deserves and doesn't get beat up so much. I know she is bossy, but I believe she had to do what she had to do to keep that household running and to take care of those children. I look forward to seeing Kate come out on top now that the "real" Jon is being exposed.

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  49. I've moved on from my disgust with Jon to my pity for Kate. She must feel so lonely right now. No family to turn to and friends busy with their own families. I'm sure people like Beth and Carla are doing their best, of course, but you can only do so much! And 8 kids to care for on her own... it's so sad.

    Maybe if Jon had tried and taken Kate to Paris this wouldn't be happening. At least now maybe Kate will get some vindication!

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  50. I am also disgusted that her brother and sil were seemingly taking Jon's side. Wonder what they think now?

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  51. I have been a fan of Jon for a long time, and even though I think he is being extremely foolish in alienating fans who might keep him 'in the money' so to speak, I still do not blame him for wanting out of the relationship with Kate. She treated him very badly. I think they are both at fault for what is happening. It doesn't appear that either of them are doing what they repeatedly say -- putting their children first. And if they are truly supposed to be using this time to work on things and help their children with this tough adjustment, then why are either of them traveling at all? IDK, I watched the show the other day when Kate took them to Hershey World (I think that's what it was called) and it was so cute and the reason I got interested in the first place. Jon was very complimentary to Kate for having handled that day out on her on while he was at work and while she was relating the experience on the couch, he was smiling at her. You could see their love. It is very sad to see what has happened.

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  52. GOOD GRIEF!! I CANNOT BELIEVE HE IS DOING THAT!! DID YOU SEE THE RING ON HER??!! THAT'S NOT POOR TASTE, JON, THAT'S BEYOND LOW-LIFE. FORGET ABOUT WHAT YOU DID TO KATE, YOU SOB. WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO THOSE KIDS???? FLAUNTING A BIMBO IN THEIR EIGHT LITTLE FACES? YOU BLOB!

    I AM SO FURIOUS I CANNOT CONTAIN MYSELF. I know. I know. I don't even know these people. But what parent (male or female) would be so PUBLIC?

    I just read the PEOPLE Magazine article and then came to this site and was SHOCKED!

    He is a despicable man and I hope his "business" ventures prove to be as successful as his previous jobs. What a jerkface.

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  53. The little tart is drinking champagne in one photo so she better not be preggers.

    Does he have a brain in that big, fat, bloated head??

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  54. BabyMama,
    Is it true that their old house is not yet sold?

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  55. Wow, a week away from the computer and look what I missed!

    Jon is an idiot. Google me kids, see what an ass I am.

    How is he going to explain this one to the kids? When he said that all the rumours were crap and that he was dreading his kids believing the lies they would one day read about him, many of us sympathized about the nasty p-people and the mess they had made of their lives. Now, looking at him out with a young kid holding hands before the ink is even dry on the divorce papers makes me wonder if he's forgotten that dread of what his kids would find if they googled him. Better yet, it makes me wonder if he's forgotten that he has 8 kids at all??? It's like he's moved on to this completely different life and is barely looking back at all.

    Mark my words people, I wouldn't be surprised if a few months to a year from now, Jon barely saw his kids anymore. He is so desperate to live a frat boy life that he is losing sight of anything important. I wouldn't be surprised if 10 years from now we see Mady and Cara on some talk show, saying that they hadn't seen their dad in years. The sextuplets probably won't even remember him at all. How incredibly sad!

    All I know is that no parent with any ounce of love or consideration for their kids and their well being could do what he is doing. I know that when they get divorced he is free to see who he wants but the fact that they just announced their split and he's already out in public with a new relationship means that this was going on long before they split up officially and kids are not stupid. The older ones know enough to put two and two together. Look at Mady's reaction to news of the divorce. I don't buy that people in their town don't talk or gossip.

    Maybe it sounds mean to say this but at this point I don't even want them to reconcile one day. I think Kate and the kids deserve so much better! Maybe this was the best thing for them. Who knows if he even had his eye on Hailey back when Kate had her operation? Sick, sick, sick!!

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  56. I am glad this came out. I believe Jon was the one who made the rumors about kate.

    Wow what a keeper the both of them. I now hope that Kate never takes him back. I am glad she got rid of him. Sick perverted idiot, He should be ashamed of himself. He was saying that his kids would understand him later on. Doubt it jon, If i was his child i would probably never forgive him and always have a bad taste in my mouth. I am glad this came out he is disgusting, I don't doubt that he was the one who spread the rumors about kate. He needed to take the heat off of himself but what a disterbing way to do it. He makes me sick.

    Looks like he is the one spending the kids money. At least Kate is writing things and making her own. Poor kids, hopefully they can learn from this and none of them will end up with someone like jon :(

    I hope Kate finds a big muscular prince to sweep her off her feet and I hope jon lives a lonely life. sounds horrible but i can't help feeling that way. Maybe the anger will wear off in a little while

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  57. ugh! that picture of them both smoking is so gross. gosselingossip.com

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  58. Even worse, TMZ has pictures of Jon and Hailey smoking. I cannot believe the horrible examples he is setting for his kids.

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  59. I wonder if the Glassmans are ashamed that their daughter is doing this/ this is the same girl that was photographed w/ Jon & her mom ...?? I am glad this photo surfaced too, now we now its true. I think that it is disgraceful that he would do this & be so public about it, I have to laugh that he was the one that said his kids would in the future google him / well there you go Jon, this is what your kids will see.
    I hope Kate moves on. She deserves better. I cant stomach the shows with him from here on in with him acting like father of the year, it all will seem fake now.

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  60. funny how he just hates being in the public eye...but here he is making all these appearances with big fashion designers and out with his new gal pal...hmmm you would think hed be laying low!! this is sad..this is who the eight beautiful kids may have to call stepmom!!! a potsmoking party chick...very very very SAD!!

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  61. I think my post may have been misunderstood. I was saying that I think it's wrong for people(GWOP) to say Kate is horrible for leaving her children to work/go on vacation, while applauding Jon for going on vacation with his new "girlfriend" (AND leaving his children behind). They say it's good for him because he's spent weeks/months as a full-time dad. Well I think they've forgotten that Kate spent 3+ years as the full-time mommy.

    Personally I think it is much too soon to be flaunting the new woman, however long Jon and Kate have been separated, because they JUST started the divorce proceedings. The divorce is new to the viewers and fans and it is certainly new to the children. They should be given time to process before throwing new significant others into the mix. And you cannot convince me that they have no idea that Daddy has a new girlfriend. Mady and Cara HAVE to hear gossip at school. Even if the tups don't know/understand what is happening, Mady and Cara do.

    I thought Jon was worried about what his kids would see when they googled him. I guess he's not that concerned anymore.

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  62. http://www.celebridiot.com/2009/07/12/jon-and-kate-gosselin-have-very-different-weekends/christian-audigier-jon-gosselin-hayley-glassman/
    Here are more pics. What a jerk!!!!

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  63. I feel so sorry for Kate now. On Radaronline she is still wearing the wedding ring, even after Jon was flaunting his girlfriend around.

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  64. Who REALLY cares? They are getting a divorce! They are both free to date others.

    How do you people know Jon isn't spending time with the kids? It could be Kate's time with them!

    People divorce, fall out of love, cheat. They are human not characters on TV who should live "happily ever after"

    Besides on the show JON did most of the hands on with the kids...after long trips he'd carry them ALL in himself, unpack the car AND bathe all kids. Jon is a good father

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  65. Does anyone else's heart ache for these kids? Say what you will about the parents they have been thus far, but for the most part the kids seem to be happy and healthy and have incredibly bright potentials.

    I've worked in childcare and in education for over 10 years now and I have witnessed an incredibly strong correlation between the happiness of a child and the kind of parents they have. It's not the overly giving parents who seemed to have happy kids, rather it was parents who connected with their kids and gave them limits. I see a lot of joy in the Gosselin kids and it breaks my heart to consider that they may be incredibly hurt by not only the divorce, but the way their parents are handling it.

    I'm partial to Alexis. She's so happy, free and loving -- characteristics that even as an adult I can admire in a kid. I'm incredibly saddened that Jon doesn't think of those little faces and their hearts more seriously. On the other hand, I found Kate a bit abrasive in past seasons, but now I see a mom really trying to do right by her kids. I wish people would focus less on the pictures and the rumors and more on how these kids can be cared for.

    I'm not referring to the "quit the show then life will be better" camp. In my opinion, if they were truly concerned about the kids instead of spending countless hours on cyberstalking and hate blogs, they would implore discrete counseling services to offer help for Kate and the family or push for better laws when it comes to paparazzi chasing after children. I think as a society, we should protect kids from paparazzi. Agreeing to appear on television, having a crew who is subject to background checks and parent approval is distinctly different from agreeing to have paparazzi screaming your child's name when you're in public. Quite honestly, the latter sounds predatory.

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  66. Jon is gone for 4 days and you guys want to hang him from the highest tree. Why were you not enraged when Kate was gone for 21 out of 30 days in both April and May?

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  67. I cannot understand why people say that Jon is such a good father, because he was hands on, and helped bathe the kids, etc... Does that make him a good father? A good father is someone that puts his children before himself and is someone that his children will look up to for guidance. IMO the children relate to Jon because he is immature and he acts like a child himself and he has now has morphed into a Punk. Kate would loose her patience with Jon because he was not an equal partner and he was willing to let her handle things because she was smart enough to negotiate opportunities for her family so that her eight children would be provided for and he went along for the ride. It was not that long ago that they were in Hawaii renewing their vows, in front of their children, it was not that long ago that he was giving interviews saying everything was great. A short time later he was photographed hitting college campuses and acting like an IDIOT. It is obvious that he was being unfaithful to his wife thus Kate's comments in regards to the filing for divorce. And Kate who in an attempt to make the most out of opportunities and in an attempt to control everything came off as being a shrew and in the interim lost family and friends. I truly believe that she has done everything, because she wanted to secure the future for her children; however, they let us in too much, they showed us too much. We became critical. We became jealous. The haters came out in droves, because they had nothing better to do with their time. She should have started to edit herself, because we all have our nasty moments, but we did not need to see the bickering. I feel for Kate, I hope that she finds some peace.

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  68. I personally don't think hailey will last long in Jon's life anyway. He seems to move on pretty fast these days. He thinks he has something to prove because he allowed himself to be emasculated on national television. He is obviously blinded and/or doesn't care. He will move on, after all he missed out right?

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  69. It breaks my heart to see the pictures of the birthday party with Jon wearing the Indiana University t shirt knowing that this is where Hailey went to school.

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  70. Just Wondering~ Are you kidding with your comment? There is a HUGE difference between Kate going away to promote her book tour, and Jon flaunting his mistress while he goes for a "talk" on some boat ride in San Tropez. He actually posed in the pictures and intentionally held that girls hand for the world to see. He was not actually working, or paid to work, he was invited on a boat for a "supposed business meeting". This wasn't an required paid trip (well, a freebie perk perhaps) I have never seen a business meeting so photographed in my life. The even changed their clothes for afternoon shots!

    Regardless of how you haters feel about Kate, it sickens me to hear how you cheer for Jon that Kate had it coming. It's sad and depressing to see your soon to be ex-husband flaunting a young girl for the world to see. I don't care who you are....

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  71. Kate didn't need to promote that book so much. It was about 10 pages long with 2 sentences on each page. Nothing major...It would have sold itself if they mentioned it on the show.

    If Kate has the right to leave for spas and vacations then so does Jon. The man has a right to be happy. If he wasn't happy in the marriage then its his right to leave! And anyway, if a MAN talked to a WOMEN the way Kate did Jon we'd all be telling her to run for the hills.

    I still think Jon is a good father. He listens to the kids, plays with them and takes good care of them. More than your typical father.

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  72. Seriously, squattmunki24, you think Jon is a GOOD father????????????? Also that's total BULL that Jon did ''most'' of the hands-on work, I've seen EVERY episode and that is just Team Jon crap

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  73. I COMPLETELY agree with everything NJMOM said. Great post!

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  74. For some reason the haters are not getting that it has NOTHING to do with Jon going away for work and Kate being away. Books normally require press tours whether they are 10 pages or 10,000. There was nothing wrong with her being away for the right reasons for her book. Jon appears to be away to get press for himself and his mistress. Thats the point. I mean, the deal is supposed to be for a line of Ed Hardy kids clothes, but all we see is Jon and Hailey smoking and living it up in San Tropez. Kate was not on a beach somewhere having an affair. He is not divorced yet. And that is the big difference here.

    PLEASE HATERS GET A GRIP...I am immediately deleting all your posts, so please don't write long comments because they will never be published and I feel bad.

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  75. If Kate has the right to leave for spas and vacations then so does Jon. The man has a right to be happy. If he wasn't happy in the marriage then its his right to leave!

    Your right he does have a right to leave but CHEAT?? REALLY??? Your telling me what hes doing or has done (and we all know it now) is ok cause it makes Jon happy? Seriously?

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  76. Maybe they have been separated up for a while, and they both decided it was OK to date. Jon does come off as a laid back fun kind of guy, so maybe it was just easier for him to find another woman. Kate may have been looking, but just has not been able to find someone as quickly, with the way she has been portrayed in the media lately as a diva. Just playing devil's advocate for Jon's situation.

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  77. Never thought of it this way, but like dancecredtee stated, Jon can't travel for work, but Kate can?

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  78. WOW! My jaw dropped. What happened to 'I hate being in the press', so he goes to a gala in France flaunting a new relationship in front of the press.
    I feel so sad for the kids. Their Dad has no regard for their feelings or how his behavior will affect their day to day lives. ie. If the kids didn't know much about what was going on before...he is ensuring that they will know now.
    Disgusting, to say the least.

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  79. I agree CBB, he hates the press when it's inconvenient for him but revels in it when he is trying to get a point across. He is vengeful and spiteful. This reeks of revenge for Jon. He is hitting Kate where it hurts. He feels she humiliated him so he is trying to humiliate her. His maturity level is at a teenage level.

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  80. You're kidding me right??
    "Kate was not on a beach somewhere having an affair." You said that??

    Just what do you think she was doing for two weeks in NC??? We saw freaking pictures of her and Steve every single day!!

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  81. Jon looks prety stupid now..he denied he was sleeping with this girl that he is now vacationing with and holding hands. Now he is also smoking...I think he is having a major midlife crisis

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  82. I would be beyond livid to have this girlfriend have anything to do with my children...and People is reporting (from JON, no less), the gf will have input designing children's clothes which the Gosselin children will model for ads.

    What in the world must be going through those poor kids' minds...

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  83. Just Wondering~ you make me laugh. Because she was on the beach WITH her kids with a bodyguard looking on while TLC was filming it for the show, your telling me thats the same thing as what Jon is doing? These are just some the ridiculous, pathetic ramblings out there....

    That is NOT the same thing, nor does it in any way justify or excuse what Jon is doing. Whatever he does to support himself I am all for. Holding hands and showing off a woman who knows Kate and doesn't care is what the issue is. Plain and simple.

    Its disgusting that the two are even being compared as the same thing... But anyone that was jealous of Kate getting all her freebies would say something like that.

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  84. To the person who just commented. I'm so sorry I deleted your post. When big news happens like this the trolls come out in full force. I have to delete twice what I can put through. The haters LIVE AND BREATHE this site and run back to copy and paste everything I say to analyze it. (lol)

    If you feel your comment should have gone though and didn't, please feel free to resend it. If it's not posted by the second try you'll know why. Also I'm super busy today running with the kids, and moderation is ON. So it may take a while for posts to be shown..Thanks!

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  85. I don't know if this was mentioned already or not but looking at the photo just looking at the face she kind of looks like Kate in a way. I totally think he's going through a mid life (quarter life) crisis.

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  86. To change the subject a bit, because this subject makes me so sad and disgusted..Is anyone inspired by Kate's new figure? She inspires me to get into better shape. I know some people credit her figure to her tummy tuck, but I can tell you that you don't get toned head to toe without a good diet and exercise regimine. Besides even with a tummy tuck, you can still gain weight in your midsection. Anyway, she inspires me to get my body back in shape. Maybe her next project should be a diet and exercise book?

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  87. Wow! A lot going on here!

    I didn't know what I thought about all this at first.

    One thing, we shouldn't assume Kate is upset about Jon dating someone else. She's known it for quite some time now. We all did.

    Besides, SHE filed for divorce. Their marriage is over, sad as it is. And yes, if they were "separated" all this time that means there was no sex between them for quite some time now. How long does anyone expect Jon to wait? Not that I'm condoning premarital sex on Jon's part but I'm not so sure Kate waited until she married Jon so that argument is moot.

    Is it embarrassing for others to know that your husband has moved on so quickly and easily? Yes. I really do feel for her. But she should have thought about it before she drove him away with her attitude. If she was a different person, they may have worked this out.

    Do I feel sorry for Kate? Yes. It is always sad when someone realizes they are now alone. But we really don't know what happened with their marriage. We don't know anything behind the scenes. Jon says she said their marriage was over and why doesn't anyone believe him? It is possible.

    So far most of the rumors have turned out true. Maybe Kate did tell him the marriage was over a long time ago and he could see other people as long as he was discreet about it. Maybe she was more upset that he wasn't discreet? Look at what has happened to the show and her career because of his indescretion.

    As for Jon's choice in a woman right now? Yikes. From her past and the recent pics I hope she is just a passing phase for Jon. And the smoking?!?!?! Makes me sick, but I'm sure half the people on this site smoke.

    However, Haily could be different now. Maybe she isn't as "wild". Maybe she has her life together now. We really don't know.

    As for Haily being a "stepmother" it's not like the kids are going to be living with her and Jon if they get married. She won't be their new mother, she will be their father's new wife. They still have Kate as their mother, if she's home with them that is.

    I do hope Jon does not marry this girl. And she is not "barely legal" as some have said. She is 22 or 23, not 18. I was engaged at 23 and married at 24. That's not "young".

    As for his choice in Haily, he just got away from a very controlling woman. He probably wants someone the exact opposite of her. I personally don't think Haily seems like the best choice and I hope he's not serious about her, but who knows. I can't see Jon wanting to get married right now anyway, he just got "free". Although nothing would surprise me.

    I hope this does not lead to a downward spiral for Jon. He's like a kid who just turned 18 and got his trust fund from some very strict parents. However, I do think Jon is a very loving parent. He was always very affectionate and loving with his children. However, I don't think either of them has been putting their children first for a long time.

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  88. continuation:

    I'm not sure why everyone is so shocked about Jon's "new" personality. I don't think it is new at all. I think it is what he was always like but TLC wanted a different image for him. Just sad that he went along with it. If we remember the pics of him when Kate first met him he was a "bad boy"... she was attracted to that. That is who she chose. And by her own admission she stole him away from another woman so she shouldn't be surprised that he has moved on so quicky.

    As for the Ed Hardy clothing, it's definitely not for everyone. It's tattoo clothes. If you're not into tattoos then you won't like the clothes. Yes, it's a little "young" but Jon is still young, not a teenager, but young. Look how old the designer is. And everyone defends Kate's new choice of clothing. I do too. She is dressing age appropriate in my eyes.

    As for the money spent on the trip, it wasn't Jon's dime (or his kids' money). It was said to be paid by Christian Audigier so that argument is moot.

    As for Jon going all the way to Paris, that's where Christian Audigier was. I don't see him traveling to PA to meet with Jon.

    As for Jon's time away from the kids... if the kids were with Kate he can't be there anyway. That was the reasoning I got from others when Kate recently went to CA.

    If this meeting was a business venture for Jon (supposedly a kid's clothing line) then he too should be allowed to travel for business just like Kate. There can't be a double standard. Just because his meeting happened to be aboard a yacht in France... lucky him.

    I will say that Jon really needs to make smart choices from this point on. I hope he continues to be in his children's lives. I will be the first to bash him if he doesn't.

    Hhhhmmmmm. Did I address everything?

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  89. Can anyone say midlife crisis? He hates the fame but he sure digs the money and the perks that come with the show. What a stand up guy, sheesh

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  90. I was shocked to see Jon out and about so quickly. Although I don't know if I could date anyone wearing pink pants. :)
    http://icydk.com/2009/07/13/jon-gosselin-vacations-with-his-new-girlfriend/

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  91. I would have been excited actually for Jon to go to Paris and make a good business deal, after all he does have 8 precious children to support. But to take that thing and flaunt her in front of the world on his arm is just disgusting. Why couldnt he go alone and do it professionally but no it shows how selfish he really is. He doesnt care how his kids see him. So NO not for one second is this even close to the same thing as Kate, shes out there doing everything for her children while Jon is out there doing nothing but trying to be 18 again.

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  92. catchnwarmrayz said...
    Jon looks prety stupid now..he denied he was sleeping with this girl that he is now vacationing with and holding hands. Now he is also smoking...I think he is having a major midlife crisis
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    I'm not defending Jon being in a relationship with anyone else when he is married... but he denied "cheating" with the other girl Deanna as far as I know.

    And he didn't say he didn't sleep with her. He said he didn't "cheat on Kate", which could mean that they were separated and their marriage was over so he wasn't "cheating" on her.

    Technically they were still married yes and I don't think it was right, but if Kate was okay with it, and we don't know that she wasn't, then he wasn't necessarily "cheating" on her in his eyes.

    Jon also claimed on camera that he always smoked and TLC just chose not to show it. Of course not, it's a horrible image and a stupid habit. He has 8 children that love him and wouldn't want him to die from lung cancer, but then again there are millions of parents out there that smoke and no one cares. I personally find smoking disgusting and selfish for anyone, but oh well.

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  93. just wondering:

    I'm sorry but there is no proof that Kate was having an affair in NC or anywhere else for that matter. Not that I would be surprised if she was, but it's just not a good argument. There is no evidence she was having an affair.

    Her story is plausible... she was on vacation with her children and her bodyguard was there. Whether or not you or anyone else believes that is a different story.

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  94. This is what I know about divorce and bringing someone else into the lives of your children:

    A family member of mine recently initiated divorce proceedings from his wife of 35+ years. Within 3 months he was seeing a woman who became his "friend" in the months before the divorce and is about 20 years his junior. He swears up and down that nothing happened before the divorce, but the fact is, his kids don't believe him and are devastated and are doubting their father. And they're all in their late 20s, early 30s! The oldest has even wondered out loud if her husband will trade her in when she gets too old too.

    So from this, I would say that I doubt Kate and Jon discussed it and decided that it's ok to see other people because it's NOT. It's way, way too soon. If adults can barely handle the same situation, how can you expect kids to?

    Jon is just out enjoying the new phase of his life that he was so excited about and is not thinking about the harm his actions could be doing to his kids. Undoubtedly, he is justifying it by saying the paparazzi shouldn't be there to take the photos and such, and in a way I somewhat sympathize, but the fact is, he's been with her in the same "level" of public in Pennsylvania that he would suffer if they weren't famous. The neighbours or friends or what have you would have seen him and the kids would have heard about it from them if the family wasn't on TV.

    Bottom line, Jon needs to grow up.

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  95. What is the hang up with him smoking??? What's next, are you guys going to get on some parent who eats McDonald's fattening french fries in front of their children or drinking a beer as setting a bad example? We all know eating fast food is bad for you and drinking is bad for you but millions of parents do it.

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  96. ummm...i recall jon's ed hardy shirts sporting words like "death". that doesn't exactly sound kid friendly or something kate would allow her kids to wear. my guess is hopefully kate will be saying no to the kids sporting that kind of clothing. it's not kid appropriate and the designs are going to mirror the ed hardy brand. why would jon want his kids to wear clothes from a man who poses w/ a giant penis. he needs to rethink his values. because they are seriously at an all time low. not to mention jon shouldn't have signed the kids off on doing ads w/ out kate. the kids are both of theirs not just jons. before the show was to support the family not just one parent pulling in one direction and the other parent going in another but that looks to eb what's happening. i feel for kate, she is vulnerable right now w/ jon putting the kids up for these kinds of ventures and the custody issues not totally settled. jon is going over the edge.

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  97. Psychotherapist M. Gary Neuman advises that parents should wait about a year after a separation before introducing a relationship to their children.

    "Children need about a year at least to adjust to the new sense of family and to develop individual relationships with each parent," said Neuman, the author of "Helping Your Kids Cope With Divorce the Sandcastles Way." "When Dad has a girlfriend, then kids can see that as an intrusion on their time and their situation."

    Couples should wait at least six months to even let their kids know that they are actively dating, Neuman said.

    "It is hurtful to children to think that their parents are dating when it is done so soon after a separation," Neuman said. "Because what it says is that it is minimizing the marriage, and the marriage is crucial to children because they came from this union, and they want to know that their parents were in love when [the children] were born.

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  98. People has a new article and it talks about how Jon is designing a children's line that his kids will model. It also reports that Jon said Hailey will have a lot of input.

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  99. About Just Wondering's comment above. When Kate was in NC she had the whole TLC crew with her every minute. Locals in NC said that Steve was professional the entire time, remained at the door when they went places, etc. Do you really think the paparazzi would leave the children alone if she didn't have a bodyguard? I think they'd mob Kate and mow down the kids.

    Hopefully Jon can get a job 'cause I think he's gonna need it! Although I can't imagine putting that ugly style of clothes on kids. Yucky! Maybe if Jon's new gf gets busted for drugs in France...along with Jon...he can enjoy some "happy" time in France. He should have taken her to Amsterdam and they could have openly done their drugs there.

    I think Kate could have spoken a bit differently to Jon in the past, but I think some of what is portrayed is the result of editing. I just watched a re-run recently (when they went to the organic farm to get their beef) and Jon was constantly sniping at Kate and the kids. On-air Kate asks Jon (nicely too I might add) if he could perhaps change his attitude so they could all have a nice day and he continues to talk abruptly with her and also with the kids.

    I can't believe that Jon is truly stupid enough to be in France openly with his gf when the divorce isn't settled. Surely his attorney advised him differently. Hope he earns big bucks 'cause I think he's going to need it. Let him be happy with whomever he wants. However, I don't think he'll find happiness that he's hoping to find.

    But, at the same time, I think Kate will be fully within her rights to demand that this chick isn't allowed to spend time with the 8. She's a convicted drug user for heavens sake!

    What a mess! What a mess!

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  100. Okay...I want to make sure I get this straight. 1. Jon was okay with the show at first. 2. Things started changing after Mrs. Glassman asked her husband to help Kate with a tummy tuck and Jon met the Glassmans. 3. Jon started not being okay with the show and was showing the world a sad puppy-dog face. 4. Jon didn't like being "Jon and Kate plus 8"...just wanted to be Jon. 5. Jon didn't like the notoriety.

    So now he's out getting waaaay more notoriety with his behavior than what he got just being a dad? Sheesh!!!

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  101. Nick Name said...
    What is the hang up with him smoking??? What's next, are you guys going to get on some parent who eats McDonald's fattening french fries in front of their children or drinking a beer as setting a bad example? We all know eating fast food is bad for you and drinking is bad for you but millions of parents do it.
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    You can't seriously be comparing cigarettes to french fries. You can't seriously be defending smoking.

    Drinking a few beers a week won't kill you. Being an alcholic is of course a different story. Drinking in moderation is not bad for you. Eating french fries in moderation isn't either. Smoking cigarettes is bad for you.

    My point about the smoking was he's always smoked according to him. Now we are just seeing it.

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  102. jl said...
    Okay...I want to make sure I get this straight. 1. Jon was okay with the show at first. 2. Things started changing after Mrs. Glassman asked her husband to help Kate with a tummy tuck and Jon met the Glassmans. 3. Jon started not being okay with the show and was showing the world a sad puppy-dog face. 4. Jon didn't like being "Jon and Kate plus 8"...just wanted to be Jon. 5. Jon didn't like the notoriety.

    So now he's out getting waaaay more notoriety with his behavior than what he got just being a dad? Sheesh!!!
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    Personally I feel that Jon was okay with filming the show and the media attention until it all went bad. Now that he doesn't have to pretend about or hide the person he really is he doesn't care if he's caught on film or in pictures doing what he is doing. He no longer has to answer to Kate or TLC about his image.

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  103. Regarding an Ed Hardy/Gosselin children's clothing line...

    If the children wear the clothes on a daily basis, they're not modeling. However, it will probably help the clothing sell. They won't be "working" so I'm sure there will be some opinions about that.

    If the children model in campaign ads for the clothing I'm sure they will get paid because modeling falls under different laws. So that's good at least. And Jon and Kate took Mady and Cara to a talent agency so they both obviously aren't against it.

    As for the clothing, I'm thinking they will be more child appropriate than Jon's clothing, but then again you never know. If the clothing is child appropriate I don't see the problem there.

    If Kate did the Healthtex clothing line I'm sure the children would be wearing the clothing everywhere they went, so again, you can't have the double standard.

    Interesting to see what will happen...

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  104. I personally think smoking is disgusting and after watching my father and my mother-in-law die of lung cancer, not a good idea. I think the problem here is that Jon presented a certain image to churches and America and now he is just flaunting his behavior. I doubt that alot of the churches they appeared at would approve of smoking and/or drinking. It is also not too bright of him to flaunt girls in front of the kids. This is the second "friend" this year. Kids do not need dad's girlfriends "flitting in and out" of their lives. I doubt they have fully absorbed the fact that mom and dad are separated let alone the idea that daddy has a girlfriend.

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  105. " I hope that people can see I'm a regular guy who is a going through a very difficult time in life and wants to move forward", big mistake Jon!
    In a divorce like in relationship every step should have its own time and you actually need to go through it. And its not only about Jon. If he was mature enough he could understand that its actually about his kids and wife too. Yes his relationship with Kate are important to his kids and for the family in the future.

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  106. Ok, I work in a store that sells Ed Hardy clothing....the guys that buy it that are near Jon's age are DEFINITELY having some kind of midlife crisis. He went from Banana Republic collared shirts and sweaters to Graphic tees! COME ONE!

    Oh I sooooo hope that the kids, especially the twins, can't see him with his new g/f.

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  107. Are you kidding me. I am so sick of Kate getting a bum rap. With 8 babies who has time to say please and honey. You either have order or chaos. Kate is a super mother, Jon needed instruction, he did'nt get the rhythm that needed to maintained to survive. check is job history .Kate was so resourseful, she found a way to take care of 9 children and put food on the table. My oppinon is confirmed by his childish behavior saying he has moved on...You can't move on you idiot. The kids needs havent changed cause you have had enough.where would you be without the hair plugs the show paid for, I doubt holding hands with a 22 year old. dont know how he sleeps at night

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  108. Sitting here watching the previews to the new episodes are making us soooo mad thinking its no longer Jon and Kate plus 8, it is just Kate plus 8!! We admire her strength to keep her family together through these hard times. While Jon galavants around the world with some 22 year old. His choices totally prove how immature he is, even though she has been sharp and pushy toward him. Although it was kind of needed... but at sometimes she went too far. As it stands we support her... plus the 8! This will be a decision that he will regret in time. Way to mess up your fifteen minutes of fame Jon.

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