On the heels of Ms. Katy Hall of The Huffington Post making up some rediculous story how she "happened" to make her way to Bald Head Island to stalk Kate Gosselin, and make up a whole bunch of junk that wasn't true, we have a new bunch of lies to review! If you haven't heard of Dr. Lillain Glass, then you will know her now. She has taken the art of making stuff up to a whole new level! She can tell you by looking at photos that show nothing that Kate is having an affair! I REALLY need you to read this article and tell me in the comments what you think! Am I crazy again? Or is the woman that is looking at photos and completely making things up?? Help me out because I can't get up I'm laughing so hard! And for the record, I really love Hollywoodlife.com, so I do not hold this mess against them :)
Our Body Language Expert Believes Kate Gosselin & Bodyguard Steve Neild Are Definitely Having An Affair!: Hollywoodlife.com
Rumors of Kate & Steve’s steamy romance are running rampant, so we had top body language expert Dr. Lillian Glass examine photos of them on vacation together. She says there’s no denying it: “These two are having an affair!” Is Kate Gosselin having a love affair with a married man? Their body language says “yes,” according to our experts! We told you earlier that Kate and longtime bodyguard Steve Neild got cozy while vacationing in Bald Head Island, N.C. during the week of Aug. 9. A shocking eyewitness report from The Huffington Post alleges that the duo were sitting side-by-side, legs touching, on the beach! After a thorough investigation, top body language expert Dr. Lillian Glass reveals what makes her believe Kate and Steve are more than just good friends.
Kate’s head is cocked like she’s interested to know what he thinks,” says Dr. Glass when looking at first photo. “They are in sync step-wise. There’s one foot where her toe is facing him, she really likes him. Her shoulders are a little rounded and hunched over which means she’s being subservient.” Dr. Glass also says there’s something to be said about Steve keeping his hands in his pockets! “The fact that his hands are in his pockets means he’s hiding something,” she tells us. “Clearly he’s trying to hide what’s going on between them.” In the second photo, Kate is standing in the doorway of the beach house she rented in Bald Head Island. Dr. Glass reveals how Kate’s posture clearly illustrates her feelings for Steve:
“Look at the way she’s looking at him!” Dr. Glass points out. “Her foot is directly in the back of him. She’s looking at him like she’s trying to control him and tell him what to do. The legs are spread wide, it means she’s very very comfortable with this guy … overly comfortable.” Here’s what Kate & Steve’s body language reveals, according to Dr. Glass:
“Her shoulders are rounded again and she’s leaning into him. The distance between them is too close like he’s trying to keep it hidden and professional, but she’s giving it away. It appears in this photo that she likes him more than he likes her with the way he is facing.” “Her face shows that she’s very happy around him. You never see Kate smile. She’s a step behind him and there’s not a lot of distance between them. They are also in sync again and that indicates she likes him. Again, he has a hand in his pocket which reveals he’s hiding something. It’s definitely possible they are having an affair. She’s very comfortable around him … it’s odd.”
Was about to comment on the other post when suddenly it closed! LOL, my luck!
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I am a LONG time reader at the Huffington Post, since round the presidential election...early 2008. HP does not care about Kate Gosselin. Their main area is POLITICS! It's a news source like CNN/MSNBC.
I read/comment at HP for the politics as do 99.9% of people there! Stories about the President often get 10,000 + comments in 2-3 hours. The Kate article got 500 comments in like 3 days.
What I am saying is Kate is just another celeb to post about. Don't get so worked up about something Huffington cares VERY little about. I also SERIOUSLY doubt HP sent a reporter to specifically spy on the Gosselins....On a republican congressman MAYBE...Gosselin naw...
Note to self...do not look, stand behind or to close to, cock head, round shoulders, point toes, place hand on hip and last but not least spread my legs around other men.
ReplyDeleteOkay... other than the spreading of the legs...what am I allowed to do around men?
Baby Mama do you know where we can buy burka's?
aabradley24~ Welcome and thank you so much for posting! Keep doing so, we are a great group. I started to close my posts after I start a new one, so we don't encounter any "problems".. ;)
ReplyDeleteDee~ Thank you! You have my exact thoughts! The whole purpose of another similar post like the other day was.. basically anyone can read into anything to try to make someone look bad!
So I can't walk in front of somebody, behind somebody, or beside somebody unless I make sure my two legs rub together and not spread apart or it will definitely, possible, or maybe show I'm having an affair???? WTH??? Dr. Glass, I'm also a fan of pop psychology of neurolinguistic programming (Not!) which indicates from the position of your eyes in your posed photograph that you are a chronic fabricator who is unable to stop herself from making things up. Okay, I do believe the last part! Maybe! Definitely! Could it? Did I cover all the bases?? What drivel!
ReplyDeleteUp with a child with a headache (back to school angst). Now that she's back in bed, I had to re-read this again. Okay, now hubby wants to know what I'm laughing so much about in the middle of the night. Go figure.
ReplyDeleteI thought I was the only crazy one that can't sleep! What's up with that? Must be something in the air or on line that bugs us , Hey!
ReplyDeleteWhat a funny article, that is really reading between the lines a whole bunch!
fascinated 0t - My post about Jon were not meant as a bad thing, just a response to some that say he is calling the paps about the kids whereabouts when they film. JMO! Like someone posted that Kate said she had to keep the Discovery Cove trip a surprise so you know who don't find out. I think she meant the paps not Jon. JMO
ReplyDeleteTLC has to try and control him somehow, and money was the way. He has been known to stick his foot in his mouth!
Seriously what crap. If I remember correctly she's the one who said one week Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes were in love according to their body language and the next week or so they weren't because he was too domineering and she too submissive. Don't quote me, but I'm pretty sure it was her. Oh and by the was DOCTOR Kate is pigeon toed in that foot so I am pretty sure she can't help which way her toes are pointed in this instance.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry baby mama, once again I could only read the first paragraph.
ReplyDeleteDr what's-her-name may have qualified her statements by saying that you cannot analyze body language from photos, so her interpretation is merely guess work, completely discrediting any results she is discussing. But, she may have said that somewhere and I didn't see it.
#1CG - no worries, that's why I thought I should ask... : )
Good morning. I'm frazzled. After being up with daughter I thought she was fine. She fainted at breakfast, so off to dr then referrals & now a battery of tests. So, when they take het in for tests, mom is banished to hall or waiting room. Although they keep saying "we don't think it's serious" they keep running more tests. So, you may get disjointed posts today. This is my disclaimer.
ReplyDeleteHollywoodlife just did a post on Jon and his Tweetering. I can't post a link because I can't copy and paste on the cellphone. They refer to his constant tweets as looking like they are written by a 9yr old (one of the twins) instead of being written by a grown man. They say that he's trying to improve his image but can't resist the jabs at Kate. Another point is that he has a job, sort of- in the ads he has posted. His rationale? He tweets, well Ellen does this all the time and makes a bunch of money. IMO, Jon is still following and doing whatever the person he's near tells him to do. That's just sad.
ReplyDeleteFlyswatter worked!
ReplyDeleteLillian Glass is a joke! She's like Jon--she uses any and all opportunities, like Kate going to the Emmys, to garner attention for herself--she's the laughing stock of her profession!
ReplyDeleteI personally believe there is something to be said for body language. I don’t, however, think you can get anything from pictures, especially from paparazzi pictures! Like we have discussed before, they capture less than one second of a movement and it means nothing. Also, especially the one where Kate is standing with her hand on her hip, uh, if you have ever watched her, that is a Kate stance, she often stands that way, it doesn’t mean anything.
ReplyDeleteYikes Linda, I hope your daughter is ok!
caregiver - I don't think you have Twitter. I thought you might like to see the type of stuff Jon is Tweeting. His latest post is promoting Butt Paste. This but one example of how sad I think he's become.
ReplyDeleteI'm retyping it here so you can see.
jongosselin1 ya! it works wonders @ellen_ross1 for those of you with kiddos, all my friends claim this Butt paste stuff kicks butt! http://spn.tw/ttjEx
He needs to really need somebody with a brain to coach him in life. I'd like for him to be happy, but I don't think this string of 23year olds is giving him very good advice. JMO
Linda I hope she feels better! I've been fighting a headache for the last three days. I think mine is allergies and stress though. **hugs**
ReplyDeleteBaby Mama has asked that I post some of my research. The following info is from the local paper near Bald Head Island. Note: Area folks did not even know that the Gosselins were in the area until AFTER Katy Hall's article, published last Wednesday.
ReplyDelete(I will follow with an article from same publication last year.)
Link: http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20100812/ARTICLES/100819856/1050
Published: Thursday, August 12, 2010 at 6:08 p.m.
Bald Head Island is Bald Head Plus Nine this week as TV personality Kate Gosselin and her eight children are vacationing in the coastal Brunswick County town.
Though Bald Head Island Public Safety "cannot confirm or deny" that the family is in town, said Cpt. Chuck Evitt, the Gosselins have been spotted on the island since early this week filming the TLC reality show "Kate Plus Eight" as seen in photos published on The Huffington Post blog Thursday.
"They are here, and I think she's going to be here for another week," said a female employee at Shoot! Boutique on Bald Head Island. The employee, who said she did not want to be identified because she wanted to respect the Gosselins' privacy, said had seen Kate Gosselin on the island riding a golf cart on Wednesday.
The family was last seen on Bald Head Island in May of 2009, shortly after Gosselin's split from her husband, Jon. The trip was filmed for their previous show, "Jon and Kate Plus Eight."
Jack Jackson, manager of Riverside Adventure Co., said he had also heard the family was vacationing on the island this week. Though the Gosselins visited the shop during last year's trip, they have not been there this year, he said.
A female employee of Bald Head Island restaurant Eb & Flo's hung up on a StarNews reporter who asked about the Gosselins, saying she didn't have time to talk.
"Kate Plus Eight," which replaced "Jon and Kate Plus Eight" after the couple's divorce, has received considerably lower ratings.
Kate was also a contestant on the most recent season of "Dancing With the Stars." Kate and the Gosselin children – 9-year-old twin daughters Cara and Madelyn and 6-year-old sextuplets Aaden, Alexis, Collin, Hannah, Joel and Leah – reside in Wernersville, Pa.
Could the attitude of Bald Head Island residents have changed so drastically in a year? I seriously doubt it!
ReplyDeleteHere's a link to an article published about last year's visit.
http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20090528/ARTICLES/905289878/1050?p=1&tc=pg
Published: Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 9:06 p.m.
Bald Head Island was aflutter Thursday with the news that the some of the Gosselin family, made famous by the television show “Jon and Kate plus Eight,” were staying on the island.
The serene beach community, accessible by a 20-minute ferry ride from Southport, is a secluded escape for many visitors who favor a quiet getaway. The island features upscale cottages, a golf course and lighthouse, and allows only golf carts and bicycles for transportation.
Despite the live-and-let-live attitude of the area, many residents were interested and excited to have the television personalities in their midst.
Jon and Kate Gosselin, along with 8-year-old twin girls and 5-year-old sextuplets, gained popularity from the TLC show, which films everyday life for the family that is anything but typical. The fifth season of the show premiered Monday.
Kayaking guide Amanda Jones was working at the Riverside Adventure Co., a gift shop and rental location on the island, when twins Cara and Madelyn Gosselin entered Thursday afternoon.
“They were so normal,” Jones said, adding that the girls bought two shark’s teeth and silly putty. “They paid for their own things.”
She said the group, which included a nanny and bodyguard, tried to keep a low profile as they shopped briefly.
“It was very, let’s get in and out,” Jones said. “It was like, please don’t take note of us.”
Kristin Moore said she had heard the family was seen on the ferry but was surprised when she spotted Kate Gosselin and the children on the beach Wednesday morning. Jon Gosselin was not with the group, but about five or six men from either the film crew or security were there, Moore said.
“It’s just the mom and the kids from what I could see,” she said. “He hasn’t been spotted.”
Karoline Shannon of Chevy Chase, Md., said she hadn’t heard Thursday that her family was sharing the island with the Gosselins, but would be relatively excited if she ran into them.
“I have watched the show; I was pretty religious about a year ago,” Shannon said. “I don’t think I would be star-struck, like if it were Brad Pitt or something.”
She and others said the beach seemed like a logical destination for the family, who might seek privacy and relaxation after recently being the hot topic of tabloid gossip.
Well-known people aren’t strangers to the spot. Bill Cowher, former head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers; Trot Nixon of the Milwaukee Brewers; and other famous faces have been spotted on Bald Head Island.
Chief Richard Herring of the Bald Head Island Police said they don’t do anything differently or provide extra security services for high-profile guests.
“They come over here to be left alone, and we respect that,” he said.
Thanks folks. We are home now and daughter will be out of school for now. Many tests have been run and we'll wait for results. It may be as simple as allergies, or it may be Juvenile Diabetes. Since I am diabetic, that has to be considered. She's a tough kid though and will deal with whatever it is. She's watched me do insulin shots, and it isn't a big deal to her. But, we're still hoping it is just allergies.
ReplyDeletePrayers going up for your daughter, Linda....
ReplyDeleteLillian Glass spews nothing but crap. She runs her website like the other haters. She will not post your comments if you question her. When she gave her opinion on one of Kate's televised interviews she stated Kate was not crying. You could clearly see the tear so I questioned her on her blog. I also asked since everyone reacts differently to a situation how she could tell what Kate was thinking. She did not post my comment but did e-mail me saying I was harassing her and defaming her and if I did not stop she just might file a law suit. She also went on and on about how she had all this education and was the number one body expert in the U.S. and until I had her education I should be quiet. She thinks way too much of herself!
ReplyDeleteHad she watched Kate’s show she would see that many times Kate’s posture when standing is with her shoulders rounded and hunched over and legs apart. Don’t we all look and face the person we are talking to? When you walk together you usually are in step especially if talking. All her points just prove body language analysis is a joke.
It is disgusting she would accuse someone of adultery by using photos.
LindaO - my prayers are with your family.
ReplyDeleteLinda:
ReplyDelete"Kate Plus Eight," which replaced "Jon and Kate Plus Eight" after the couple's divorce, has received considerably lower ratings."
Isn't it funny how the biased always give themselves away--they just can't stand it that Kate's ratings have been more than good, and higher than the new cupcake show--2.5 million is nothing to diss!
Linda I hope it doesn't come to that. Hang in there.
ReplyDeleteLadies, I see a real media conspiracy brewing here again. This woman Lillian is a self-absorbed nut case. Just watch her own body language when she does her critiqes and you can see her self-love...it reeks. Poor Kate...she really looks kind of sad to me in recent pictures. She never gets a break...now the Examiner has an article out about how the children hate Kate and love Jon and what a better parent he has become! We all had really better band together for Kate...she is going to need our support.
ReplyDeleteHi Linda, Just wanted to let you know I went through some fainting spells in my very early adolesence. Nothing ever came from them and I have always been very healthy. Seems to me they always coincided with big growing spurts.
ReplyDeleteThank you all very much. We're heading out now for allergy prick testing. They'll do a 12-hour fasting sugar test in the morning. The only tears she's shed are over missing school and getting behind. The head of school just told her to not worry, this week is mostly turning in the summer reading assignments, etc. But, you know kids. She wants to go by school after the prick tests to make sure she's got her assignments. They even let her talk to both her best friend and her twin, both of whom assured her they have her back and will go over any missed stuff with her.
ReplyDeleteAhh...she's reaching the age when friends almost have more authority and power than any adults. Her twin has always been more concerned about academics and in the past, she's more into art and drama. It's nice to see him reach out to his sister. They've both excelled at "Arguing 101" as well as "Prank Your Twin 202", so it's nice to see them step up to the plate when the going gets rough. We are appreciative of "Loving Your Sibs 310" lol.
She just said, "No matter what happens, don't cry Mom 'cause I'm not!"
Again, thanks for your prayers and concern.
Sheryl - you are so right! Even the ratings Kate+8 got on the second show were very high for TLC. Especially since TLC didn't promote when it would air until about two days out. People forget that TLC is a "little" guy compared to the network giants.
ReplyDeleteGood afternoon everyone! Worked for a shot time in the morning now it's back to work at home as I try to go through the millions of clothes the kids have outgrown, and what is being donated!
ReplyDeleteI urge all of you that may have extra clothes in your closet to schedule a pickup for The Lupus Foundation. The link is below. They come directly to your house and you can get rid of all your unwanted clothes & toys for a great Summer clean. It really helps out people in need and you get the slip to use for your taxes! Well worth it...
http://www.lupuspickup.org/web/pageDetail.aspx?pgID=redirector-home
I heard of this women many months ago. She wrote an article about Kate and the children after seeing pictures of them at a play area. Among other things she said Collin was a bully and that Kate let him get away with it because he was her favorite of the boys! I was infuriated at her comments about some of the children especially Collin since he is my favorite.
ReplyDeleteI was ready to go off on her when I read the part where she said she wouldn't post your comments if you didn't agree because she's a Doctor and had all of these credentials. Basically, she's far too intelligent to have to put up with anyone who doesn't accept her words as gospel. Since I knew I wouldn't get posted there I almost brought it up here just so I could vent. But then I took a deep breath and thought perhaps Baby Mama might be upset at bringing that bile here.
Personally, I think she's full of it and herself! To be so low as to criticize children makes her a bottom dweller in my opinion.
Ok so we are all super excited that they are finally showing promos for this months episode of Kate Plus 8. Boy has it been a while! The last one was what.. July 11th? This episode will be near & dear to my heart if it's the one with the kids in NYC! What are you all excited to see the most??
ReplyDeleteKate Gosselin Playing "Sad Mommy Music" as Kids Go Back to School: UsWeekly.com
ReplyDeleteTime flies! Next week marks a major milestone for the Gosselin family. As famous single mom Kate Gosselin recently blogged, "ALL EIGHT OF MY CHILDREN will, for the first time ever, ATTEND FULL-TIME SCHOOL this year!!!!"
That's right: now 6-years-old, Kate and ex-husband Jon's famous sextuplets Aaden, Joel, Collin, Alexis, Hannah and Leah will become full-time elementary schoolers alongside 9-year-old twin sisters Cary and Mady.
"I stand in awe, amazement and slight sadness at the thought of this [insert sad, nostalgic mommy music here please]," Kate, 35, writes of the big back-to-school moment. Looking back on her pregnancy with the six kids, she says, "I can remember .... thinking ahead to the day when I would send eight children off to school Monday through Friday...at the time, the thought of having eight children at home Monday through Friday scared the living bejeebers out of me."
Kate adds that, at the time, she "drew the conclusion that someday my house would, thanks to the school system, sorta somewhat calm down again ... Uh yeah, or so I hoped!"
Since the sextuplets' birth, of course, the Gosselin brood became massive reality stars via their TLC show, Jon and Kate divorced late last year, and Kate had a memorable run on ABC's Dancing With the Stars. "Reaching this milestone is a privilege that is never a guarantee -- extra especially not in a high-risk sextuplet pregnancy," Kate writes. "I feel honored (even if a bit sad) to send them marching off to school...Just like Snow White and her 8 (please, just on this occasion?)Dwarfs!"
http://www.usmagazine.com/momsbabies/news/kate-gosselin-playing-sad-mommy-music-as-kids-go-back-to-school-2010178
I have always seen Steve act more as a father type figure for Kate, not a boyfriend. Also, typical Kate is controlling and she's like that with the men she's never seen before pressure washing the house or changing the water filters, so it means nothing about how close she is to Steve. A person who actually follos Kate like we do knows that. If Kate had a boyfriend and I hope someday she has a good one, I see her being upfront about it and I see TLC using it to grab ratings.
ReplyDeleteBaby Mama, or anyone, have you seen online promos yet?
ReplyDeleteso us weekly has run out of things to talk about so they basically are now copying and pasting Kate's blog and adding snarky comments to it? Pathetic.
ReplyDeleteWildchild - yes, but you have to be willing to work to find them, lol.
ReplyDeleteHere's what I have:
TLC’s TV Schedule Weekly only goes through Aug. 29th for any of its shows.
At the Kate+8 portion of the TLC website, only the Webisodes are promoted.
(My favorites are still the one on Berry Picking along with the one on Teaching Responsibility AND, by the way, at home this shows none of the kids wearing matching clothes, just playclothes.) Kids just love things like berry picking (Denise did you see this one?)
However, if you click are in this portion and go to the About Kate Plus Eight and then click on “See the TV Schedule” you will see…
TAH DAH!! Aug 30th 9pm Episode 4
Whew! Their website always seems to be a beat behind for any of the TLC programs.
Linda-THANK you!
ReplyDeleteangelsmama - Glass is not a medical doctor. She has a Ph.D. in the field of Communication Disorders.
ReplyDeleteI couldn't even finish reading that crap. What a load!! Talk about much ado about absolutely NOTHING!!! She's just standing there. They're friends! What, is she not supposed to look at him??!! If she didn't, the Khaters would say that shows how arrogant and disrepectful she is. But if she looks at him when he speaks to her, then she's having an affair. Lord have mercy! Who is this idiot Hall? No one -- that's who!
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry - that fired me up! What a load of proverbial nonsense!!
#1. Linda O, Hope all is well with your daughter. You've had quite a time lately. How are YOU feeling? My best to you and your family.
ReplyDelete#2. Guess what? According to BODY LANGUAGE Kate Gosselin trusts her BODY GUARD! OH NO! Isn't that what he is paid for? Her trust!!??!!
Is the world nuts or is it me? Hey... Watch what you say!
#3. Saw Paul McCartney this weekend. I can't stop crying. He rocks like a kid at 67.3 hours, non-stop. Let me tell you, if I ever had the good fortune to have a picture taken near him, my body language would show some affection!
Read the article and I had to come in just to post these four words, er five words (decided I needed to add one):
ReplyDelete"Are you FrEaKiNg kidding me"?
Holli Day - thank you, we're the kind of stock that's just stubborn and never gives up! (in the words of my father)
ReplyDeleteI am overjoyed for you about the concert. Fantastic!
Found an article about a defamation lawsuit filed by Glass against a blogger that was critical of her comments about Britney Spears when she was going thru her problems. The letter states Glass was "the subject of disparaging, defamatory, and tortious comments". IMO Kate could make that same statement to Glass. Glass can dish it out but can't take it.
ReplyDeleteHere is the link: http://www.pogowasright.org/?p=11455
I dont understand why she finds it so odd that Kate likes and trusts her bodyguard. He has been there for her through thick and thin the last year or so. I dont see anything wrong with them being really good friends as long as they dont cross that line and who is this Dr. Glass person to stand up and make these claims with no proof at all. I would totally say this is defamation. I mean there are families involved here. Steve has children and a wife that are affected by these "claims without proof" The whole thing is just such a dumb move on Glass's part. Its amazing the length people go through to use Kate for alittle attention.
ReplyDeleteLinda, your right, I don't Twitter and also my facebook is sooo neglected that farmville has died. Thanks for filling me in on his tweets. Butt Paste, Wow, I even know what that is. LOL! My kids use it for their babies rashes and it works great. Now what the heck is he doing, selling it or promoting it, I don't get what his job might be. Me thinks he is pretending to have one!?????
ReplyDeleteWish you well with your daugther and yourself too. Are you driving already so soon?
Caregiver - no I have many months before I can drive. I had to hire a driver. It's a service from the car dealership but of course you have to pay. With families, sonebody is always sick. I dont get upset (too much) any more, well not usually. Caregiver, Jon has "sponsor" advertisers that he tweets for and I'm assuming he gets paid by the number of people who click on the link.
ReplyDeleteHey, the new show "Quints by Surprise" will follow K+8 on the 30th. I guess it's just more kids for the haters to be upset by. Or will they choose to remain focused on Kate?
ReplyDeleteHello to all my lovely ladies! It's so great to see you all! I miss you when I don't get a chance to chat! But Linda is doing an amazing job and I really appreciate it!
ReplyDeleteGot a few e-mails asking about both these back to back posts about people speading lies about Kate Gosselin for purpose or gain. You hit the nail on the head. It was just two different examples of what people will put in print to make sure it's picked up everywhere. I wanted these two examples to be one thread, but it would have been way too long. I did close the previous post, but feel free to express your thoughts about The Huffington Post article here as well!
Linda, I'm kinda already done with the whole multiples novelty...lol No family will be able to hold the audiences attention like the Gosselin family. That is for the most part because of Kate. But it will be nice to see adorable babies again because they are always a joy to watch. So count me in for Quints By Surprise and hopefully they will have a cool mommy for us to talk about!
Baby Mama,
ReplyDeleteI know I'm not your favorite person, but I wanted to let you know that not all 'haters' think what that Huffington Post reporter did was right. She was completely unethical and I believe she should be fired.
Also, even most of the haters as far as I can tell, think Lillian Glass is full of crap. She can't even spell and she just rambles.
Kate points her toe at Steve so that means love? Oh, please!
Now that I got that out of the way, I really want to wish Linda's family well. I want her to know I went through this exact thing with my son when he was in seventh grade. He had terrible headaches and one day he fainted in the shower.It turned out to be an extremely underactive thyroid.
We may not agree about everything, but I know we all love our children, and you will be in my thoughts.
StoryLady~ Thank you for your comment, I appreciate it! :) I know Linda will too.
ReplyDeleteSo I was wondering everyones thoughts on Jon always only having the Tups on his days and not having Mady & Cara. As you remember Jon returned the tups on that rediculous days with the crying kids and the paps. Now today Jon Twittered up a storm how he was with his kids... But he was once again only with the sextuplets. As you see from these photos, Kate was again with the girls..
So why do you think thats the case??
http://www.gossipcenter.com/kate-gosselin/kate-gosselin-twin-time-reading-400817
Hi Baby Mama. I'm with Story Lady - the Huff Post thing was fishy and Dr. Glass is, ahem, questionable.
ReplyDeleteRegarding the twins, your guess is as good as mine. At first I figured they were too old to hang out with the little ones, especially with Jon having such limited space in his apt., but does he see the twins separately? There have been no pap photos that I've seen.
Still here!
ReplyDeleteTo answer your question, Baby Mama, if Ellen is living with Jon, or always with him, Mady and Cara would probably be pretty uncomfortable with that.
Why should they split their time with her? And besides, it must feel sort of creepy and disloyal to them.
Also, they're older now and probably don't want to hang out with the little kids all the time. Maybe they have friends come over to their house to swim, or go to the movies or something more "grown up." I didn't want to hang around my little sister all the time when I was that age.
They need private time with their mom as well. The dreaded puberty is sneaking up fast, and they'll want to talk about boys and stuff, I would think.
I don't want to be thought of as a 'hater'. I started reading your blog for perspective, because I never want to hear only one side of a story, and with Kate, I was only hearing the bad stuff.
I honestly want what is best for that beautiful family. Kate is being put through a hell nobody deserves, and if I had any part in that, I apologize to her and her family and I apologize to all of you.
Thanks StoryLady for bringing up your son's experience with an underactive thyroid. Thyroid issues often go undiagnosed and it is important to make people aware that thyroid testing should take place even if the symptoms seem cut and dry. I agree, we may all have different feelings about Kate but we all care about our kids and her kids.
ReplyDeleteI don't know why the Twins don't hang out with Jon. My suspicion is that Jon doesn't know what to do with them and so they mutually agreed not to hang out as much.
ReplyDeleteJon has three young women in his life, that know he's a liar--Kate, Mady and Cara! I would imagine it's hard for Jon to deal with that! I would think that his sleeping with the GF kinda creeps the twins out! Remember how we felt as young teens when we found out that our parents did WHAT!? We thought it was soooo gross! Well, imagine how the twins must feel after all the women Jon's been with--very hurtful and confusing I would think....
ReplyDeleteI am wondering if Jon takes the older girls another time, maybe the space is an issue and they are bothered by his paparazzi presence so he sees them in private. Just a guess. They don't seem to be mad at him the way they hug him and stuff. Also they could be invited to parties and sleepovers and such. I do think it is good for the older girls to have some time away from the tups.
ReplyDeletemaybe mady and cara prefer sleeping in a bed and not on the floor.
ReplyDeletesleeping on the floor maybe ok when your camping but not in your dads house
Since we are speculating on why we don't see Jon with Mady and Cara, here's my 2 cents worth. While most of their Summer was consumed with filming out of town, the girls have had no time to spend with their friends. Now Kate probably gives them a choice of either or: Do you want to go with your Dad or go here or there with your school friends? There is so little time in between filming trips that the girls would choose their friends. It would be more age appropriate activities. This is a good way for Kate to control secret pics taken by the paps when they are with their father. I have always said that Kate was a smart cookie and this would be her way of stopping Jon if he is calling the paps.
ReplyDeleteIf they go with Jon for overnight stays, he probably lets them sleep in his big bed, and he can have the couch or floor, no problem there. Also, from pap pics, they met Ellen and had fun with her and Jon. So I don't think they are embarrassed or uncomfortable with her and Jon together on outings. It will be Kate that makes a big deal about that. Now, that being said, I do hope that Ellen and Jon are not living together yet. It is not right in my book. They should be married, but I am old fashioned in that department.
No proof or pics have been seen yet!!! JMO!
Again, thank you all. Caregiver, IMO it could be simple or complicated. Simple, as on Jon is spending time with the twins separate and it's staying under the radar. Complicated, for any number of reasons. Jon doesn't deal with discord very well. Even Cara is pretty outspoken with things; Mady always has been. Ellen is only 13 years older than the twins. If you get a nonparent, Ellen, telling them to either do or not do something, a typical response at this age is "You're not my parent and you don't tell ME what to do!" That can set off fireworks! I speak from prior divorce, a 23 yrold with my ex, and him returning from visitation and being livid over child disrespect towards her. I NEVER said a word about his behavior or his "friend." I think the friend was just not comfortable around them. I continued to say "He loves you." They said, "Only when he's not with her." Divorce is tough. Divorce is extremely tough when there are kids. That said, I'm hoping for the simple solution: the visits are happening under the "radar."
ReplyDeleteBeing a divorced parent, I know it is generally not within the custodial parents rights to allow the kids to choose spending time with their friends or the other parent. During Jon's custody times, Kate has NO say in what the kids do. So IF Cara and Mady are choosing not to go to their Dads, Jon is the one allowing them to do so - not Kate.
ReplyDeleteI am confused about the belief that the twins have had no time to be with friends this summer. They have @12 weeks of summer vacation - they spent 1 week in Florida, 3-4 days in NYC, 1 week on the Alaska trip, and 1 week in North Carolina. By my calculations, that means they had about 8 weeks of time at home.
Linda, I don't think the visits are happening at all, unless Jon is paying the paps not to take pics. LOL! If the tups get seen, and then I believe they could find Jon with the twins. I feel Kate has allot to do with this. JMO!
ReplyDeleteBTW, I hope the twins are spending time seperately with Jon. I think it would be ideal for them to have more "individual" time with each parent and the best way for that to happen is to not share the time with 6 other kids. I also think it would be great for Jon to take just the 3 boys sometimes and just the 3 little girls sometimes.
ReplyDeletePar and Linda, It's called PARENT ALIENATION - and there are allot of cases on record and it takes almost 6 months to get it in court. This could be one of them. No one knows, do they?
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ReplyDeleteLinda, I don't think the visits are happening at all, unless Jon is paying the paps not to take pics. LOL! If the tups get seen, and then I believe they could find Jon with the twins. I feel Kate has allot to do with this. JMO!
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I hope Kate is getting good advice from her lawyers about what a mistake it would be to do that. I know people who have lost custody by encouraging the kids not to want to spend time with the other parent.
Okay - just call me simple! We don't know. I can't see Kate even remotely being dumb enough to do that. I don't look for conspiracies, campaigns of hate, or bad things. Nobody has ever considered Kate dumb. She's smart and savvy, and I just don't see her doing it, no way no how. But, I also believed the first reports of Jon and barhopping as "hey they guy just wanted a beer." Then the video of leaving "friend" Deanna's after spending the night was an "oh my" moment. It's my understanding from Jon's reports (believe him or not?) and his tweets that visitation was worked out and was hunky-dory. I still think the visits are under the radar. The twins glare and don't smile when confronted by the paps. Photos of them unsmiling sure wouldn't work with the campaign of kids like dad best, now would they?
ReplyDeleteKate has not trashed Jon through the whole nasty divorce, but John has trashed Kate innumerable times. My guess is they resent Ellen, and they've given her a fit! So Jon has to be the one giving the girls a choice, and not Kate--Kate knows the courts would read her the riot act if she did that--she gets blamed, of course, but the blame squarely falls on Jon.
ReplyDeleteOMG !!!! I just looked at the pix Baby Mama posted of Kate & twins above. Oh dear, I say with sarcasm, Kate is walking with her legs apart, not rubbing. Must mean she's in love with...Oh wait? There's no man there except the pap. Could this pap be her next true love? Which way are her toes pointed? She's tilting her head so another indicator of love. OMG, TLC must have sprayed the "man" with invisible wonder spray. Shoot, maybe it's simply that, this is the way Kate walks, etc. Oh no, can't be that simple. Back to trying to figure out a deep hidden motive.
ReplyDeleteLOL Linda.
ReplyDeleteDon't y'all think if the twins were being kept from Jon he would be courting the press? That's how he has solved all his other so called problems. I had high hopes for him a few weeks ago until he pulled all the twitter stunts. If we're feeling this let down by him, imagine how the twins feel. They're smart little girls.
Parent Alienation is done in a very loving way and a parent doesn't have to put down the ex-spouse for it to work.
ReplyDeleteThe Parent with Physical custody is suppose to encourage the children to go with the other parent. These children are too young to be given that choice, they need to be around both parents. Who are the adults in this situation. OMG, Only God knows that answer.
Have to go get organized and will leave you Ladies alone now! Have a great day!
It just amazes me that some people, without any proof, think Kate is responsible for the twins not being with Jon. Kate has stated over and over that the kids love their dad and need him in their lives. IMO it is not only irresponsible but disgusting to accuse Kate of PARENT ALIENATION.
ReplyDeleteThe kids had 4 wonderful vacations this summer. Yes, some days included filming but they also had days without filming to enjoy themselves and make lasting family memories. They also had many weeks without filming where they could have been with their friends.
Swat! Swat! Sprayed with sanitizer to kill any germs. I've always heard that "nice" things attract rodents and insects. Seems to be true. Baby Mama taught me how to use her flyswatter! Just like varmints that know when you're busy with kids or distracted, they try to slip under the door or around the screen door.
ReplyDeleteSwat again!
ReplyDeleteMy southern mother said, "Hate is bred from pure ignorance!" Those pesky flies prove that 10 times over.
ReplyDeleteI love how it’s automatically Kate’s fault that Mady and Cara haven’t been seen with Jon lately. I think both Jon and Kate love all of their children. I can’t see Kate or Jon telling the children they shouldn’t be with the other parent. Even with all of the negative comments Jon has made publically about Kate, I can’t recall him saying that the children shouldn’t spend time with her. And we know that Kate has publically said that the children should spend time with their father.
ReplyDeleteLinda I agree with your Mom. Smart lady.
ReplyDeleteI agree that Jon would be raising a stink and on Nancy Grace and every magazine cover if Kate was denying him access to Maddy and Cara. My concern is that he could be "punishing" the girls for rude outspokenness and such by not letting them come with him. Maybe its their choice and maybe he has a deal with the paparazzi that they film him with the sextuplets and not the twins because I think the twins are smart enough to see how he courts them and they give him a big ruckus about it. Also sometimes with friends its about the timing. Going to your friend's house to play is different than going to their birthday party that is at a specific time. Alot of divorced families deal with that by having which ever parent has the kids at the time take the child to the event, but maybe Jon can't handle that with the sextuplets. Thats why Kate has the nannies and such so one can be taken to an appointment or picked up from soccer practice. I can't imagine any almost ten year olds enjoying being cooped up in a one bedroom apartment with a bunch of six year olds where the older girls can't even go in the yard without supervision. I do hope that they are getting some quality time with Dad especially Kara since she's into sports. I also wonder if this is part of his need to make it seem like the six like him more than Kate thus the crying video. Maybe his ego is threatened by his nine year old daughters.
ReplyDeleteI don't think the twins have been seen with Jon since it was reported that he let the chickens out of their coop. I'm wondering if that story is true, and the older kids were aware of it? I'm guessing that they are also aware of his nasty tweets agreeing with people who diss their mom. If they don't read twitter, I bet their friends do and fill them in.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I've always had the feeling that the reason the little kids flipped out when he dropped them off a couple of weeks ago is because he had just said something like "Daddy won't be seeing you for a long time" or "you aren't allowed to sleep over at Daddy's any more" - or something along those lines.
I don't like to be critical of Jon just because I like Kate, to me it's not a contest and trying to prove that one is a bad parent does not automatically make the other a good parent. That being said, it's just really hard not to question a lot of Jon's choices.
Sarahj - the little kids were with Jon on Monday as soon as they returned from NC as reported in ROL. We'll never know what transpired.
ReplyDeleteCraftyMom - I wish I'd listened more to my mother, but often, any wisdom gained comes with hindsight. She also said "Opposites attract, particularly in dating. Opposites in a marriage is often a recipe for disaster and a lot of heartbreak!" Alas, her stubborn daughter did not listen the first go round.
ReplyDeleteThanks Linda, I didn't know the little kids were with Jon on Monday. I guess I figured he wouldn't be tweeting while he had them, since he sees them so rarely.
ReplyDeleteAll 8 kids are seen with Jon yesterday afternoon:
ReplyDeleteINF Daily spotted Jon Gosselin doing the kid handover with ex-wife Kate Gosselin yesterday afternoon. Jon, who’s not allowed on Kate’s property, parked his Mercedes SUV outside on the grass, music blaring. He then waited as Kate drove their eight kids to the end of the driveway in their enormous van.
Once Kate hopped out of the van she high-tailed it out of there, never turning around as she walked back into the house. Jon doesn’t acknowledge her in any way either. The kids all headed over to his apartment, looking pretty excited.
http://www.infdaily.com/2010/08/exclusive-jon-kate-gosselin-hand-off-the-kids.html
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See, everyone can twist it to whatever they want, but that still doesn't make any of us right. It is only our own opinions from what is in the media!
ReplyDeleteThanks Denise. Interesting points: 1. No paps around other than INF. 2. Jon's photos - I had hoped the diet was working but it clearly isn't! 3. There was not a single shot of the kids in the van. 4. Back at Jon's apartment, the same pap followed them, the kids aren't smiling. Yet, the article said they were sming and happy to see him. (well I hope they were indeed happy to see their Dad.) 5. I guess Jon was able to call up since as soon as he backed out, Kate was pulling through gate. (Perhaps he remembered to call ahead?) 6. Why the heck should Kate stand around and let INF shoot photos of her? I'm going to give Jon credit; perhaps Jon, calling ahead to Kate said, "Pap on my tail. Need a fast exchange."
ReplyDeleteGood! Younger kids got Monday with Jon, and then all kids were with Jon from the Tuesday shots by INF.
ReplyDeleteI knew they would be spotted soon.
ReplyDeleteThe INF photographer took pics of Kate yesterday also.
ReplyDeleteYes Denise. Baby Mama has it posted at the top of the page on right hand side.
ReplyDeleteSo why call Chris Jon's photographer?
ReplyDeleteAhh... An easy question. Why was Jon picking up kids later in the day? Kate was shopping with the twins. Thus, the tip on what Kate was doing. No other paparazzi were around except Chris.
ReplyDeleteDenise~ Thank you so much for the heads up on the photos. It really seems to me that yes Chris seems to somehow get the heads up from Jon about when to be there IMO. I will be reposting the video on my next blog post. I feel that this time they did a great job switching off without giving the paps anything to see.
ReplyDeleteYes if Kate doesn't want Jon on the property that is her choice. This time Jon did exactly what have should of been done the first time. I honestly think the mess the last time was because Kate wasn't home and perhaps the bab ysitter didn't know the proper way to handle the drop-off. Either way, OF COURSE the kids will be excited to see their father. I'm just happy it was all of them. I don't understand the reason why Jon separates his 2 days one with the twins and one without. I really hope tomorrow perhaps its the Twins day so they do not feel left out or without equal time with their father!
I forgot to publically thank Linda for taking on the responsibilty of fly swatter and doing such a great job at it. I'm so happy with the great group of people on this blog and hope that more of my over 560 followers will share their thoughts & post! ;)
ReplyDeleteI am going to be very busy this week working and handling the kids before our vacation next week since literally the next day it's back to school. (I know.. what was I thinking?) I am fortunate to have Linda here to keep everything status quo!
Baby Mama - Welcome Back, and I hope you really enjoy your trip. I just want to tell that I enjoyed your post, the one at 3:03, about Jon and his children. How nice to read some happy thoughts for him. Tx
ReplyDeleteMama, have a great time. I will be back when you are; I don't care to be swatted....
ReplyDeleteKate has a new post up and she talks about the island.
ReplyDeleteLol Denise! Speaking of which, where is Schmecky?
ReplyDeleteDenise - I can't imagine swatting any post of yours. The only posts we swat are those from people Baby Mama has asked to not come back here to post. I won't name names because their pleasure comes from posting here so they can copy and paste it to their hate blog. You don't have to like Kate to post here, you don't have to like Jon to post here. You can't bash the kids under any circumstances. All of those things you abide by completely in my opinion. The main troll just doesn't do that. Once a troll is banished (by Baby Mama - not by me) they don't get to post here any longer. I guess I'd call my roll as more that of babysitter. She sets the rules and I just try to follow them. Last year was not a pleasant vacation for her and I'm determined to see that this year is more stress free! I guess I'm what you'd call the temporary help.
ReplyDeleteCaregiver - since you don't do Twitter, several weeks ago I did tweet to Jon several ideas that thought would work for him - eg A show where he travels by bike to visit tattoo shops. I didn't hear back; nor did I really expect to. Biking and tatts aren't interests of mine, but seem to be his. If it makes him happy, then good.
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ReplyDeleteangelsmama - Glass is not a medical doctor. She has a Ph.D. in the field of Communication Disorders.
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Oops! I misspoke. :)
Re:the pickup. This was a very nasty divorce and I understand why the two of them did not speak to each other. Still, It's sad the children have to see their parents like that.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the heads up wildchild. That post was great. I loved the picture.
ReplyDeleteKate's Take is so "spot on" about Bald Head Island. People there are so in to respecting privacy and "live and let live" that is still difficult to believe Hall's article. We're going back Sept 10 if I get a go from the doc's and I can hardly wait. Staying with friends is always super!
ReplyDeleteDenise - Do you know more from INF? (Not one I check daily) I was thinking about it. I'm thinking maybe they didn't stay overnight. He was Tweeting before 6 pm that he'd just dropped off the kids and they had a good time at the arcade. I'm sure they enjoyed that; at least my kids adore it.
ReplyDeleteGood evening everyone! As always its not until the dead of night where its the best time for me to sit, take out my cheese & crackers and debate on some FRESH PAPER!
ReplyDeleteThats right, tonights scent is for me and that mini Baby Blue Bell commercial. Why is it that I'm always craving it late at night? lol. If your not craving a little late night snack, then todays fresh paper can magically hange into the lovely scent of lavender & chamomille.
FYI: A few people have asked me the reason behind my freshly scented papers. In "Legally Blonde" with Reese Witherspoon, she printed her resume on freshly scented paper to give it "a little extra something". Just like me ;)