Wednesday, July 15, 2009

Jon Gosselin: From Divorce to Dating Within Days - ABC News, In Touch: Jon & Hailey Engaged?


Jon Gosselin: From Divorce to Dating Within Days - ABC News

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Jon Proposes To Hailey In San Tropez? In Touch.com

Jon Gosselin takes the cover of the latest issue of In Touch with news from an insider that he proposed to his new girlfriend, Hailey Glassman earlier in the week during their getaway in St. Tropez, France.

The insider told the magazine that the 32-year-old Jon & Kate Plus 8 dad gave Hailey a $180,000 engagement ring designed by Edouard Nahum, featuring four black diamonds surrounding a skull.

Reportedly, the couple is already planning the wedding and entertaining the idea of getting married in Las Vegas.

Also pictured is Jon returning to New York City solo while Mady plays with the family dogs at their home with cameras rolling in Reading, Penn. The show started filming again after taking a production hiatus couple weeks ago.

72 comments:

  1. So much for wanting to stay out of the spotlight. It figures Jon, who couldn't hold a job, gets offered a possible "job" that will bring in $$$$$$$$. Kate should ask for child support, stay home with the kids because she loves that. I hope Kate stays strong and finds a real man.

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  2. I just think this is awful, no matter which way you look at it!!!!! Those poor children....how absolutely devastating for them just to see him acting like a teenager weeks after being told of their parents separation. I can't even imagine what they must be feeling.

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  3. This is painful for me, I can't imagine how Kate feels. For all the people speculating about her and the bodygaurd, I don't see any evidence of it.

    She probably got rid of the bodygaurd and told them to get a new one because she is mature enough to know that it was too risky to have the rumors floating around.

    Jon on the other hand is passive aggressive and it doing all this to make a subliminal message to Kate.

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  4. My heart goes out to Kate and her children. I'm so disappointed in Jon's actions.

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  5. Jon is moving "forward". Seems to me like he's moving backward, but he is moving ON that's for sure.!

    I personally don't blame him for moving on but I really hope he's not engaged yet. He's on the rebound big time and needs to take his time before getting married again.

    Hopefully this Hailey chick has her act together now. The fact that she's embarrassed about her past could be a good sign. I hope?

    As for everyone saying Kate is home with the kids putting them first, doing what she's supposed to be doing, etc., yes, she is, but it's her turn to take care of the kids so what else is she supposed to be doing? She was traveling last week. I'm sure she will be traveling again. And Jon too.

    If Jon turns into a less attentive father now it will be sad, but that doesn't necessarily make Kate the better parent by default. I personally hope this makes her realize that the children's needs do come first. In my opinion neither one of them has been doing that for the past few years.

    But yikes, I hope Jon is NOT engaged.

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  6. I have lost all respect for Jon.
    Poor Kate! What does she say? What about the kids?
    Kate should get full custody of those kids. I don't think Jon can handle Hailey and 8 kids.

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  7. I wonder how much the Gosselin empire is worth if Jon is spending 180,000 on a ring? If he has that much money left over after purchasing a million dollar home, I don't feel sorry for the kids, Kate or anyone else in that household. I am sure the nanny is paid very well also. The kids continuously receive freebies to keep their mind off any pain of the divorce, while the Gosselins rake in the cash. If what I read is true, neither Kate nor Jon really have any formal education other than Kates nursing certificate and they are millionaires.

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  8. Not so sure if I believe any of this engagement stuff. Until there is concrete proof like a clear photo of the ring, then I will be reserving judgement.

    That's not to say I think Jon is right to be parading this child around for everyone to see, 2 weeks after the divorce papers are filed. I don't care how long they have been separated, living in separate rooms, not having sex, whatever. It just isn't right. You need to give your children time at least, to adjust to this.

    I really, really wish they would stop filming. A few weeks is not a long enough period of time to come to terms with this situation for the kids. As much as I would like to see new episodes, i think a cancellation of this show is the best thing to do for those kids.

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  9. Remember J&K's first (real) wedding? Didn't Jon say something about "thank you for making me the man I am"? He was unemployed and just hanging out when they met.

    He made some comment about the designer deal being "sweet" or something and raised he eyebrows. I could almost hear his voice saying, "all that money and I don't have to do anything".

    If it weren't for Kate and the pure coincidence of the birth of six babies, he'd still be a drifter...oh, right! He still is!!

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  10. Do we seriously need Jon on the show?!! It could just become "Kate Plus 8" and plenty of fans would still watch. After his latest escapade I don't even think I can stomach his presence on camera any longer. What an unbelievable jerk!

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  11. Am I dreaming? Are you serious?
    I thought he realized that his kids would google him someday.

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  12. It's quite remarkable how fickle these magazines are. For months they blast Kate and now the headline reads "He's spoiling her [Hailey] with a lifestyle he never gave Kate." So now Kate's the wronged party. It's probably too much to hope that this turn will stem the tide of Kate hate.

    And if that is true (which, given the source, I doubt) the $180K for the ring would be the children's money and Kate should go after him for it.

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  13. Hmmmm....black diamonds and a skull! Lovely...certainly my choice for an engagement ring. I can't help but not believe this, it just seems so absurd...but then again, Jon is being rather absurd these days so who knows!!

    I truly feel sorry for this guy! He is obviously VERY lost and not making good decisions right now. He clearly does not see how his actions today are going to effect his children and his relationship with them. He will ultimately be the biggest loser in this situation.

    My heart really goes out to Kate and certainly to those kiddos! There is no way to keep this kind of information from the twins for very long. With school starting in a few weeks, I am sure someone will bring up all the drama to them. Very sad!

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  14. Jon Gosselin has turned from family man to an ass.

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  15. I saw the JON ENGAGED story and IMMEDIATELY threw up in my mouth a little.......and then I thought of sending it to you. What is he thinking? I mean, he complained that he can't be JON, that he has to be Jon and Kate Plus 8, but NOW look at him, he's Jon and that skanky whore who broke up their marriage.....in F'UGLY clothes!

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  16. I wonder how TLC is looking at the current situation in regards to how it will affect the show's fan base and ratings. After all, who really wants to see Jon in the show anymore? I really doubt the new season with him on it will improve ratings much. If anything, ratings will probably drop. If it is seen as a liability can they somehow get Jon written out of the contract through a loophole and change the title?

    And if I were Kate, in light of his recent activities and choice of companions, in order to protect the kids, I'd want full custody and start placing some restrictions regarding the time he has with the kids.

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  17. I like to dress younger than I am, but Jon does kinda look like he is in high school with those pink shorts, and graphic t-shirt.

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  18. So Jon has always smoked and TLC chose not to show it? I'm not really surprised. And I bet those oxford shirts were for the viewer's benefit, too. Just supports my position that Jon has had his flaws all along and TLC chose to emphasize Kate's rather than Jon's. She may be "controlling" and "bossy", but Jon has NOT always been meek and accepting of whatever she dished out. There was a lot of arguing and bickering from the beginning - we just didn't see much of it.

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  19. Sounds like jon is spending a lot of money. He has issues, big ones!!! I hope they cut him out of the show. no one wants to look at a cheaters face weekly

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  20. This is so sad!!! Remember when they had those promos int he fall with the Beautiful Life song I use to cry at those because they made me so happy now I cry at them for different reasons.

    I just hope Kate stands strong doesn't make any noice in the press about this and comes out being in a better place!!

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  21. WHAT THE @#%&!!!HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAVE BEEN DATING THIS BRAT?STUPID MISTAKE, I SMELL ANOTHER DIVORCE!Seriously if I was Kate I would fight for custody for those kids, if Jon well be bringing over his stupid wife all the time!Good for Kate for not letting her kids go near that @#%$% and btw four black diamonds surrounding a skull and wedding in Las Vegas, wow very oringnal lol!

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  22. I remember when Burt Reynolds and Loni Anderson divorced, he was running around with a cheap waitress thru it all she never said anything. I had so much respect for her! Burt did much the same thing as Jon is doing. Flaunting that waitress, etc. I couldn't believe how Loni just sucked it up and remained professional. In the end Burt looked like a creep. I never had anything to do with him or his movies, shows etc after that.

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  23. Please, Please tell me it is not true...... It is just a "story" for the tabloid to sell some issues...right????

    If not, then wow I feel so bad for the kids and Kate. I agree just make the show "Kate Plus 8, A Single Mom's Story". Jon what are you thinking????

    Wow...... What is next from Jon.....

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  24. No, it does actually get worse. Apparently Hailey was a lesbian in college and her girlfriend is speaking "ie getting paid via photos but not interviews" to Radar Online

    Watch out Jon Gosselin, your new young girlfriend will wreck your life! That’s the warning issued by Joy Lawlor, who was Hailey Glassman’s lesbian lover for three years!

    “You are wasting your time with Hailey. She’ll destroy you,” Joy said in an exclusive interview. “She will use him to make herself famous and then she will leave him for someone else she can profit from.

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/exclusive-interview-hailey%E2%80%99s-lesbian-lover-warns-jon-%E2%80%9Cshe%E2%80%99ll-destroy-you%E2%80%9D

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  25. WOW!!! Now Babymama that is bad, but it would serve him right!

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  26. Maybe you can do a new poll BabyMama. One that TLC will see. How many fans of the show DO NOT want to see Jon on the show anymore. In light of everything that has happened I sure don't want to see his face for awhile. As far as Kate...I think silence is golden right now. She is taking the high road.

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  27. What on earth makes any of you think that Kate wants full custody of the children? Not in a million years does Kate want to be stuck with the kids and a house to care for all by herself. Not in a million years.

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  28. Ok, now I'm just laughing. Jon is on his own for 20 days and he's engaged to a Lesbian party slut. Sorry, but something about that is just hilarious to me! Jon thinking for himself has really produced marvelous results. What a man! How humiliating for Kate to have been married to such an idiot for so long. On to better things! Hopefully the kids will come through their father's idiocy with their egos intact.

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  29. I personally don't buy Jon's I've been smoking all along story. I can't see Kate justifying cigarette purchases when the babies were that little and they had NO money and lived off donations. I think this is more recent and maybe he considered a few months of smoking to be "for a while".

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  30. Jon went for a motorcycle ride on the day he returns to the house. If that was Kate people would be all over that!

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  31. monkie~ thanks for the poll idea! I may do it after this one..

    I was wondering today actually if the show was going to keep the same new opening (that I hate by the way) or give us a brand new one. I wish they would go back to the old opening, but obviously I'm stuck in time with the rest of the fans!

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  32. I truly doubt that Jon was smoking all along. I can't see Kate allowing that anywhere near the kids or her house. He is regressing into some kind of teenage punk. That girl is disgusting, I hope he had her tested for various diseases. Still not a Kate fan but he is just ridiculous.

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  33. Baby Mama- I too, don't like the new opening. I guess that after these last few months the only thing that they have together is "It might be a crazy life, but it's our life."

    I really hope that Jon isn't engaged!!! Hailey seems crazy.... a great new stepmother to 8 young children.

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  34. I think that this is just a story to sell tabloids. Who is the "un-named source?" People.com has a denial of the engagement directly from Jon, at something like 1:10 this afternoon (don't know the time zone). He does not deny Hailey, of course, but says that its NOT true, they are NOT engaged - just enjoying each other (or something to that effect). Baby Mama: you might want to check it out if you decide to put this through, I saw the quote much earlier today, and haven't verified it a second time. I guess InTouch doesn't bother verifying their stories either!!!

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  35. I'm thinking the engagement rumor is just that... a rumor. Didn't he say in the upcoming People that they weren't engaged and they were just "having fun?"
    I still can't believe that a man would flaunt his new daliance for the world to see just a couple of weeks after divorce papers were filed. Sure, Kate filed, but why wouldn't she? I think she saw this coming and needed to preserve her sanity by getting out.
    Hopefully all this (engagement) is moot... I don't see Hailey sticking around very long, given her history.

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  36. I am not sure that I believe the engagement story. In Touch seems to be more "sensational" than some of the other tabloids. I still am sick about his relationship though. I for one hope they write him out of the show. I am all for a "Kate Plus 8" show. It would be a good premise to show a single mom trying to raise 8 kids. If he is out of the show and TLC writes a new show with a new contract for just Kate and the kids, then that money would be just for her and the kids. Then he would have to get a real job...good luck.

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  37. I agree, it is a far more intriguing premise to keep tabs on the single Mom raising 8 kids on her own. By Kate taking the high road, she will come out on top. I myself, cannot continue to watch the show if that immature jerk (soon-to-be ex) is still in it...Team Kate (you go girl)!!

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  38. Next week's people has him and his ladyfriend speaking about their relationship. They are both posed on the cover.

    Whatever happened to no more speaking to the media?

    Jon should be ashamed of himself. It's been 2 weeks. It's pretty obvious to EVERYONE that he cheated on Kate. You don't get into a seemingly serious relationship with someone in a few weeks.

    His poor children. Now Mady and Cara will hear about daddy and his new girlfriend and wonder when that happened... after all, the kids were just told about the divorce a few weeks ago.

    Disgusting.

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  39. ....I did notice Hailey wearing some type of big clunky ring in the photos on her wedding finger.

    All I can say is that if my husband were to start dating that (previous lesbian, gun toting, drug smoking, jailbird)....I would NEVER let her near my children in a million years. Those pics with her with a gun are just so disturbing.

    Jon has gone down the wrong path, whether or not he finds his way back, he has already proven himself to be stupid beyond words.

    The only devastating thing is how much the children love their dad. Why do some people bring kids into the world and then do this type of emotional damage?

    If I know Kate, she will do ALL that she can do to protect the children. More power to her!!!!!!

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  40. I just read the engagement is not true.

    http://omg.yahoo.com/news/jon-gosselin-hailey-engagement-rumors-100-percent-false/25259

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  41. Yeah that whole 'no speaking to media' thing is obviously out the window, posing with his skank in France for People magazine

    After I watched this, it's just disgusting and a big smack in the face to Kate from Jon.

    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/CelebrityCafe/story?id=8082889&page=1

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  42. I don't know how many of you have seen this segment on GMA, but here is the link:

    http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerindex?id=8086973

    Where Jon says that he is going through a very difficult time in his life and he just wants to move forward and that his relationship with Hailey began as a friendship and has grown into something more...

    And then he said that both he and Kate agreed to a 45 day period in which they would not talk about each other. Yet he does an interview with People?

    He stated that he is in a new period of his life and he feels very free..

    His clothing line is going to be called "Hollywood Rebel"??

    Kate Coyne hit the nail on the head and she described Jon perfectly...He is unapologetic about everything that he does... he started the whole thing by going to the bars and partying with college kids, yet the public was harder on Kate and blaming her and justifying his actions. Like blaming the victim, like Kate provoked his actions. I wonder if Jon and Hailey really expected that the public would support their relationship and embrace them and continue to blame and bash Kate, because it seems as if they may be totally surpised with the all of the negative press?

    Is this whole thing totally bizarre?

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  43. And this was also said:

    "by introducing Glassman to the public so soon after his failed marriage, Jon Gosselin could be trying to declare his independence and show that he is strong, not weak."

    IMO a strong man tries to work through his problems for the sake of his children. A strong man does not need to parade around in France to work on a business deal, he could have met "leather man" elsewhere or he could have gone by himself, instead of taking his "Stylist". A strong man has enough respect for himself, his children, and the mother of his children, to not act like an ... A strong man does not jump from a 10 year marriage into another relationship (if you want to call it that). A strong man does not put himself and his family in this predicament. A strong man recognizes he has issues and he seeks counseling.

    Kate ruled the roost for a reason. Jon is not strong, he does not know how to be strong, he is stupid.

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  44. Seriously, is he on drugs?! Is this what Kate meant when her statement around the time the divorce papers were filed was about protecting herself and the kids?
    This is beyond mid-life crisis for a 32-year-old...running away from your problems, and abandoning your 8 kids?
    I have a feeling that this will get more bizarre and definitely will not end well...my heart goes out to those kids.

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  45. I don't think Poor Kate or Poor Jon... They both screwed up. They have 8 beautiful children and they both ruined their family. Kate with her bossiness and being so controlling and with Jon not being able to
    stand up for himself and demand respect from his wife. So because of their Immaturity ~~ the kids will have to pay the consequences. It just goes to show you that here is another couple ruined by Reality TV. SO SAD !!!!!

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  46. This entire situation gets more and more bizare as the days and weeks go by. It makes you wonder what and how much Jon has been hiding during the years he and Kate were married. It's beyond me that a person after years of marriage just wakes up one day and decides that he's going to just go wild and trash himself and his family.

    No matter how hard Kate may have been on him (probably for good reason now that we all see how weak he was), there is absolutely no excuse for the way he is treating Kate and the kids now. She (& the kids), in no way, deserves the kind of humiliating havoc he is creating.

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  47. According to radaronline (the show's biggest fan, it seems), Jon was the one who started the rumour that Kate was having an affair with the bodyguard. Sadly, given his recent behaviour, I wouldn't put it past him. It's so sad.

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/exclusive-jon-gosselin-started-rumors-about-kate-and-her-bodyguard-says-source

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  48. OMG! All I can say is "YUCK"! What kind of Man or even person does this??? Now I know why Kate looked at the shirt funny that I embroidered for John when I gave it to her back at the Harrisburg show (I had embroidered gifts for all of the kids and her as well)...I had embroidered "My Dad is Cool" with all the kid's names and a snowboarder...this was before I knew anything about any other women...I am so sorry Kate, if I had known I would've NEVER put that on a shirt...this is all soo sad to me...What kind of people are the Glassman's to condone this??? This is still their daughter, apparently they are encouraging the relationship since Mrs. Glassman and the daughter both went to lunch with John in NY a little while back. I believe everyone should boycott Dr. Glassman's practice and not use him as a surgeon...put him out of business!!! What a bunch of trash!!! To condone doing that to this family!!! Sadly, if it wasn't her it would probably be someone else...but just the thought that these people appeared to help Kate and became her friend! Hmmm...maybe Dr. Glassman just did it for advertisement and to get on TV to advance his business??? I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree does it now?

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  49. well, it is nice to see all the attention is now focused on Jon and people have laid off of kate. Jon, Jon, Jon, he is in self destruct phase!

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  50. I am so sickened by his behavior. I do hope that Hailey has nothing to do with the children, and I certainly hope the engagement is just a rumor. Sadly, if Jon does marry her I don't know what Kate could do to keep her from the children. How embarressing and hurtful it must be for Kate, for the children too when they find out? I guess we shouldn't be too shocked by his behavior though. He didn't put his marriage first in his priorities, and now he's not putting the children first either. Up until now I was hoping that Jon and Kate could reconcile, but now I wouldn't wish Jon upon my worst enemy. He is a piece of work... or at least, a piece of something...

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  51. Figures! I finally get to sit and watch Jon & Kate this morning, and which episode is it! Why the one with the tummy tuck and the Glassmans! Do you think TLC intentionally put that one on?? I wish I could shake them and ask them how do they sleep at night knowing their daughter is on the cover of People Magazine this week for being a drunk, party girl home wrecker.....

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  52. on a side note.. watching that particular show again now pisses me off. (pictures of Hailey being "goofy" all over the fridge) "Kate is s such a sweet wonderful girl. When you meet her you already know she will be a great friend"..Out of Lauren Glassmans mouth.

    I wonder how she feels now....

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  53. I'm sorry to say, right now, I believe that the best thing for the CHILDREN would be for the show's hiatus to continue ... barely 4 weeks is NOT long enough. I realize that no one is to blame for the media frenzy right now over Jon's behavior except for Jon. If this whole situation had been handled more privately from the beginning, the amount of attention that is occurring right now would be significantly less. When Jon & Kate realized that their marriage was in trouble - & from Kate's own statements in the season premiere, that was at least 8+ months ago - they should have pulled back, stopped production, & did what they needed to do PRIVATELY.

    The fact that they were still on TV every Monday night as a happy, cohesive family without a care in the world is a part of what all the hoopla is about now. When Jon was caught out partying (etc.) it was big news! Because up until that moment, their audience was under the impression that life was just grand in the Gosselin family.

    Of course, we now know that was not the case; it was far from the truth! Jon & Kate have since said that they’d been "struggling" for many months. At the end of last season, when Jon said he did not want to continue the show, & Kate said she definitely did want to continue - at that point they BOTH knew that trouble was brewing. I'm sure they didn’t expect it to get this far out of hand, but it very definitely, &very quickly, did spiral out of control.

    I think if they had stepped back, & said through a spokesperson, discreetly, "We are going to take a break. We are very sorry to have to tell you we are experiencing a period of difficulty in our relationship (& I'm sure there is not a married couple out there that has not at SOME point been in the same boat) - & out of respect for ourselves, our kids, & our audience, we are going to try to work through our problems in PRIVATE. Hopefully we will come out on the other side happier & healthier & continue our show, etc."

    I know the paparazzi would still have been all over Jon's late night rendezvous & Kate's bikini vacations, but the public shock factor would have been far less & the many viewers who now feel betrayed by what they thought they were watching would be more understanding of the current situation.

    I am not taking anybody's side, not blaming anyone, & I'm not trying to diminish what has happened. Jon's behavior is selfish & immature. Kate is not without blame herself, in that she did not respect her husband's point of view. She didn't "bring this on herself" - no one should be put in the position Jon has put her in - but in turn, no one should have to have your wife publicly ridicule them on national TV week after week, either. I just think they should have handled ALL of this privately from the very beginning.

    Many people have said that Kate is the better person for taking the high road & not commenting on Jon's actions. Those same people have also been saying that JON should have stood up to Kate when she was being "verbally abusive" over the years. Wasn't Jon taking the high road by not commenting on Kate's actions, which were just as inappropriate & humiliating at the time?
    Sorry, I do think that calling your husband names & ridiculing him in front of others (not to mention in front of their kids) is beyond disrespectful. So is cheating with a 22 year old less than a month after your intention to divorce has been made public.

    They are both in the wrong, & they both have been mean & vindictive. I hope that the kids are being sheltered from this as much as possible, & that they will consider therapy - for the kids sake if not for themselves. Even if it doesn't help their relationship, it’ll benefit the long term well being of their children.

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  54. HayLaura you do not DEMAND respect, you EARN respect. Kate was and is the way she is for a reason and NOW we all know why. She is not perfect, and she has her flaws, but no one is perfect. Say what you want about what you think Kate deserves, but those eight kids did nothing to deserve this, NOTHING, and for anyone to condone his behavior is ridiculous. If he was unhappy with his marriage, he should have filed the papers and gotten a divorce, BEFORE his barhopping and skirt chasing. That is what an honorable man does. He is making a fool of himself and he is destroying his family, so that he can be free???? You can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig. He is a self-centered, self-serving, unapologetic piece of @*#*!

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  55. Punishing the Glassmans for Hailey's behaviour is sort of sad. I doubt they are happy with her actions in college or her parading around with Jon.
    They were very kind to Kate, her surgery would have been very expensive and they took her in to their home.

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  56. just wondering said...
    What on earth makes any of you think that Kate wants full custody of the children? Not in a million years does Kate want to be stuck with the kids and a house to care for all by herself. Not in a million years.
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    I happen to disagree-- Right or wrong, Kate has always been and always will be able and willing to continue putting in enormous amount of time and energy for the sake of all 8 kids. She is strong, capable and organized. It would not require her being around the kids and house 24/7 since she has plenty of outside help.

    Having full custody would enable her full control and decision making in regards to the kids; including their activities and what and who they are exposed to. She would not deny them time with their father, but be able to have restrictions or conditions placed on visitation.

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  57. I guess Jon and Kate were together this morning, filming.
    http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/07/16/jon-kate-gosselin-together-again/
    *Sorry if you've already gotten this link Baby Mama!

    I've noticed that Kate is starting to look more like her "old" self. (Before the books, speaking engagements, etc.) In the pictures on Just Jared, it looks like she could be sitting out in the garage in her white plastic chair at the old house. I think that it's a good sign! But Jon on the other hand.... ;o)

    Also, I was wondering if anyone thinks that Kate will change her last name back to Krieder (if that's how you spell it?!?) after the divorce is finalized? So many people have been keeping their married name these days, I have no idea!

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  58. Jon is back to who he was before they were married. THIS is who Kate originally married. She liked "bad boys." She said so, remember?

    Makes me wonder who the next bad boy will be.

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  59. Baby Mama: I got kicked off the web while in the middle of posting the comment below. If it's been sent to you more than once, I apologize. Please disregard any duplicates! Thanks!

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    It was not that long ago (with the speed at which everything has been happening, NOTHING is that long ago!) that people were concerned about the effect all of the nasty comments being made about Kate would have on the kids when they came across them later on when they were older. Not exactly quoting here, but along the lines of "if you care so much about the kids, quit the Kate-bashing tactics regarding their mother." And I agree!

    People who care about the welfare of the children should not be making rude remarks publicly about their mother. It then follows that it’s just as detrimental to make rude remarks about their father!

    Jon's actions speak for themselves. It's bad enough that someday his kids may "Google" him and see all these pictures. Should any of us be contributing to that by calling him names?

    Regardless of what he says or does, he's still their father and they love him. How many times have you seen ABUSED & NEGLECTED kids crying as they are wrenched from their parents arms? Kids who've been through far worse than their father dating an inappropriate woman. They still love the parent, in spite of the physical scars they may wear because of that parent.

    What will the Gosselin children think when they read the comments here, on the Gosselin fan site, calling their father an @$$, jerk, drifter, and worse? Jon-bashing is no more productive than Kate-bashing. In the long run, both Jon and Kate’s actions will speak for themselves, without the running commentary.

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  60. I am blown away by how quickly Hailey operates. The day after she returned to San Tropez, she removed all "incriminating" photos of her on Facebook. She turned her page into a "Fan Page" and got over 100 friend requests in a day.

    She also changed her profile picture from her looking like a wet rat to the one of her best salty Mariah Carey impersonation. Ohh yeah shes NOT using Jon...

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  61. During his weekend in France, Jon was quoted as saying that he thought of his kids every 10 minutes and missed them a lot. However, when Jon returned home yesterday, it was reported that after the kids were ushered inside the house after greeting him home, he later took his motorcycle out for a while and spent much of the afternoon outside on his cell phone (probably talking with you-know-who).

    My understanding is that Kate generally stays home a lot more days with the kids than Jon, so therefore he doesn't get to see them except weekends or when Kate does business travel? And if he was home for filming, how long do they take? Either way, his behavior after coming home doesn't really appear as if his time with them was limited and so he treasured every minute with them. I dunno...

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  62. I noticed that on facebook too, Hailey just grosses me out. It's too late for her to remove those photos, WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THEM!!!! they're posted all over the net, they're not going away now!

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  63. As far as the Kate saying she liked bad boys comment. Well we all change and I doubt this is the kind of bad boy Kate meant not to mention having eight kids changes what you used to want to what you want now. I do think it's a good sign to see that they can be in each other's presence now, at least there is an opportunity for them to communicate now if they choose too. I am still praying Jon wakes up.

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  64. just wondering.....Kate did say she liked bad boys and maybe that is what Jon was when she met and married him. But that was before he had 8 children. I get it that you hate Kate and she can do no right, and you hate Kate so much Jon can do no wrong. This is the trolls mentality.

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  65. Honest to Goodness...I don't know how she can sit there. I would just be a sobbing mess. Either that or I would be so full of rage. She is stronger than I could be. On a lighter note...check out Kate's arms...very nice! She looks so fit.

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  66. radaronline now has pictures of Kate leaving for the weekend.

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  67. Judging by Jon's actions lately, it is obvious he was checked out of that marriage long ago. Dare I be so bold as to say that he was probably emotionally checked out for the better part of the 10 years??? He had to to have been able to be all over someone new this quickly with engagement rumours swirling around no less.

    Looking back now at their earliest footage before they were married on Christmas eve exchanging gifts, it is so easy to see the real love and passion that existed. The self claimed non emotional people were all over each other, kissing every two seconds and cooing and giggling uncontrollably. That there shows that they did have the capacity to be that way with each other. All the way through the show though, you never see that. I think Jon has only really sincerely kissed Kate twice that I can think of and the rest of the times though few and far between, it looks like he can barely stand her touching him. In some of the scenes where she reaches to kiss him, he even pulls back a little. Back then I took it at face value as a couple who wasn't into PDA but now I don't think that cuts it. I really think this was not the life Jon wanted for himself and I think by nature of all the stress having 8 kids brought into their lives, Jon gradually started resenting Kate more and more especially as she took a hard situation and made some enjoyment out of it for herself. I know her book tours and stuff seemed selfish to some people but at least she was finding a way to be happy mong all the hard work and doing something she enjoyed. Jon, on the other hand seemed not to be so happy when he was working, and even more unhappy when he quit work to stay at home.

    I can honestly say that more than the way Kate treated him, it was the lifestyle he was not into.I think he resented Kate even more for making the best of it while he couldn't find satisfaction or happiness anywhere and I think he just tuned out because it was easier than sticking around and making it work. After all, he was pretty adamant about not wanting to try for more kids after the twins. I don't think he was cut out for the responsible husband and father role. He always did say that he pictured himself as an old fart married to a 19 year old and it looks like he is well on his way to living up to that reputation. I would be shocked if he even wanted joint custody of the kids. I think he is perfectly happy being a very part time dad. It sucks that he is so lame but I guess that is who he is. I think Kate is a lot better off without him unfortunately. I just hope the kids don't grow up one day with the guilt that their existence is what tore their family apart. There are too many times where Jon says on tape that they never asked for this and that they were devastated when they first found out etc. etc. That has got to hurt!

    As for whether she will change her name back to Kreider, I have wondered that myself. She may not be ready to do that yet because Gosselin has been her identity for so long. I think she might also reconsider for the sake of the kids too, same as why she won't take her wedding ring off. I also think professionally it would be easier to keep the married name since that is how she is known. Having said that she might not even want to have anything to do with Jon or his name pretty soon. I guess only time will tell.

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  68. monkie~ you hit the nail on the head! Just Wondering is a HUGE troll. I keep wondering why they feel the need to come here when the obviously have other places to go. Its like they slither in trying to get a rise out of people for laughs. These are the type of people I get to deal with (lol) lucky me...

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  69. Baby Mama: I doubt you read Harry Potter, but you said that the trolls "slither in". I had to laugh...Slytherin in the house in which the wizards and witches with more dark intentions live in Hogwarts. It was quite fitting that you said that.

    I am so saddened to see the pictures of Kate leaving.

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  70. ...heartbreaking looking at the photos of Kate saying good-bye to her kids. You can only imagine the inner turmoil she is feeling. I wonder if she sought sole custody if Jon would contest it? I imagine she feels very strongly about keeping her kids away from Hailey for fear of smoking, drinking, partying and God knows what else.

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  71. jl~ OMG you caught that?? too funny. That was INTENTIONAL!

    My husband LOVES Harry Potter and we are going for "date night" tomorrow night to see it! I "booked" my mom and everything. We are equally excited to visit the completed Harry Potter theme park in Universal Orlando in 2010.....

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  72. We only see what they want us to see, when the show is on TV. There could be so much more to Jon & Kate's marriage than anyone could ever dream of knowing or understanding. Alot of people are blasting Jon because he's going out, while Kate is at home with the kids. Well what is he supposed to be doing? Hiding in his apartment? No, they made the arrangement of keeping the kids at the one house and shuffling the parents, which I think is a little weird but whatever. As to the pictures of a sad Kate saying goodbye to the kids, give me a break that's the agreement she made with Jon. Jon is the one who spends the most time away from the kids. Something doesn't seem right with this whole situation, they will do anything for ratings. If TLC pulls the plug on the show, what will Jon & Kate do for money? No other network will touch them. They only get the high ratings when there is a "surprise" going to happen. For all the people wanting Jon off the show, the ratings will go downhill very fast. What most people want to see is Jon & Kate, not the kids. It's gone way past the kids. Which is very sad.

    Remember the episode where Kate went grocery shopping? And she said that she plans her meals by the specials in the ads? Where have those days gone? In the light of all the economic troubles, Jon & Kate seem to be flaunting all there material things, all there cool toys. And so many people are just trying to ONE meal on the table for there kids. Shame on you!

    And Baby Mama, I respect that we have a difference of opinion, but I do believe that(to a point)Kate verbally abused her husband. And yes I do remember the times where Jon gave as well as he took. "Kate, when are you going to pull the stick out?" But from watching the show, there are so many times that she talked down to him, it was sick.

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