SchmeckyGirl- I completely agree with everything you say. It's finally nice to see someone with opposing viewpoints in an intelligent, respectful manner. There really is no need to bash Kate's thighs or anything else ridiculous like that. I just believe that the show needs to end and Kate needs to get her priorities straight.
Even though the Gosselins are still in the news and making headlines daily the posts from all the gosselin blog sites seem to be slow. :( No offense BabyMama b/c I'm sure your busy. What mom isn't? Just noting the lack of posts on all the gosselin blogs.
I think posts on this topic and others are making too much of the "fan" comment in the cake episode. On the first episode when Kate was at a book signing, she went on and on about how much she appreciated fans of the show. I feel like people are "looking" for things to be critical about.
I have recently made a commitment to spend a few moments each day in prayer for the Gosselins. I hope others will be inspired to do the same.
I have never witnessed such a strong reaction and am saddened by the cult that has united to spread such destructive wreckage where ever they go. I also make a commitment to try my best not to engage in conversation with them. If I am criticized for my support, then I will take it with the knowledge that it is mearly the dark side acting out once again. There will always be a dark side attacking those with pure motives..... I will remember this and not give into the temptation. I will win this test and not repay evil for evil.... God help me in my efforts.....
I am new tp this whole blogging thing but I have been trying to find a way to tell the Gosselin Family to hang in there and to understand that everyone needs to be who they are meant to be not who someone wants them to be and love them for that!!!!
BabyMama... Is there any way you could approve posts before they get put up? I know you are busy but I know you created this forum for positive-only comments from true fans. I was hoping not to have to sift through negative anti-Gosselin ones here (most recently "kateisblahblah"). I am so sick to death of seeing those kinds and thought your site and forum was a breath of fresh air... til I see the trash commens again.
Babymama said yesterday that she is out of town and that is why a certain person is here...only to take advantage of the situation. Babymama said that she didn't want to put this blog on "moderation before posting". I guess she was hoping that there would be grownups posting.
Froggy- Thanks for the positive inspiration. I totally agree with your comment. Since The Father loves all those he created, I can certainly add more to my ever growing list. I thought about this after my last post, but thanks for adding it so eloquently! Maybe we can start a trend...
Terri: I'm confused. What do you want people to pray for? I know for the Gosselins, but what for?
Pray that they come to their senses and quit the show and focus on their family? Pray that they make more money to support their children during a divorce? Pray they stay together as a family regardless of anything else? Pray that they are all happy together or separately? I'm lost. Pray for what? Seriously. I don't know what you want people to pray for as far as the Gosselins are concerned... ????
Are they really high chairs? I mean do they have the the bar in front of them and something between their legs to hold them in? I never noticed. If not, then they may just be glorified stools. lol.
Booster seat, high chair? What's the difference? The whole point is for them to be able to reach the table without leaning on their knees. Let it go people.
Besides, they were high-risk multiples. They are probably small for their age and may even be more developmentally delayed. They may be in speech therapy. Really good schools provide that stuff. They know what to look for. Trust me, I know. Why pick on them for that when there is so much more to pick on Jon and Kate for?
I don't think they are still sitting in baby high chairs. They sit in what used to be baby high chairs. Now it is just a chair that is high. They dont have the bar and anything between their legs. And as of the birthday episode, they dont wear the bibs anymore.
Besides, who cares if they sit in high chairs, I am short and sometimes I wish I had a high chair to sit comfortably in!
Schmeckygirl - My prayers are pretty much the same for anyone I pray for, including my personal prayers. I pray for His guidance in all things, I ask that He provide strength and comfort when needed. I especially and consistantly pray that we hear what He wants us to hear and to say what He wants us to say. I usually ask that any shortcomings are removed so that He can be better served by us....
It explains the "high chairs". If you can't click on the link it basically is Jon and Kate explaining the chairs. You can google it if you want.
The chairs go from being a "high chair" to being a "booster seat". They liked them because they have a stable base and you can remove the straps and the kids can get out of them themselves like a chair and they are made for the age range of 2-5 years old.
So basically it is like a stool with sides and a back so the kids can't fall off. Which is great because then we'd hear everyone complaining that Jon and Kate have their kids sitting on dangerous stools and that they should be arrested for child endangerment.
Okay, can we end the "high chair debate" once and for all?
Bottom line is that I don't get too caught up in the particular words in my prayers. My God knows my heart and understands my motives. He is way smarter than me! Thanks for asking the question.
Hi! Yep. You were right. No bar or strap on the "chair" just like you said. I figured that just as much. Funny thing is it was so easy to find out online. Gotta love google!
SchmeckyGirl... Completely agree...the high chair, bibs, and kateisblahblah (I just added that one in)...all just need to be dropped :) I enjoy reading your posts because they but a balanced view on both sides of the coin.
I just don't understand how someone could get worked up about bibs and high chairs. If you are going to have a problem with someone, have a real problem with them. Has Blah been back?
God tells us to encourage one another and build each other up. He wants us to care for all people. He wants us to support others and pray for them during good times and bad. Jon and Kate now more than ever need God's support and our support. God is a very powerful being and can work amazing things. I personally have seen dramatic change that had to have come from God. You do not need to know someone personally to pray for them. Being said, I feel like in some way I know Kate and Jon. I can certainly feel their pain. I want for them what is best for each individual in their family. I want the outcome to be what is most glorifying to God.
As for all the little nit-picking items, people need to let them go. I will however stick up for Kate. I have 6 kids. I too have these "high chairs/ boosters". They are great. They get the kids closer to the top of the table and it makes it easier for them. And the bib thing, if my 7 year old would keep one on, I would make her wear it at every meal. It is a lot of physical work to raise a lot of kids. When I see that one of my kids has spilt food on their clothes, I am not mad, just overwhelmed by the thought of "well that's one more stain I have to try to get out" in my already jammed packed day.
Who cares if Kate does have help. I wish I did. She has 8 kids. That is 3-4 times the number of kids that the average american family has. Please give Kate a break. Please turn your hatred or jealous into love, care and compassion for this family. Our prayers and positivity can only help.
Terri & Melissa - "Amen" to all that. My kids are in college now but one thing I've learned... being a mom never really gets that much easier.. it just changes!
OMG! Steve the bodyguard is divorced! !Separated in Sept 2008/Finalized April 2009!!!!! OH NO...You don't think they are together? My hopes are dashed for a Jon and Kate reconcilation!!!!!
if anyone gets the people magazine article w/ Jon could you share it w/ those of us who don't live where they are going to put that on the market 1st day of sale.
In all the recent photos of Jon and Kate both still have their wedding rings on. So if they were heading for divorce and not trying to work things out wouldn't they have taken them off by now?
BTW, in the photos just in from justjarred Jon is photographed in Ed Harley sweatshirt and his luggage. Does anyone know where he was or where he might be going? Who says he was coming back from somewhere? Maybe he, Mady and Cara are going to meet Kate and tups in NC? He was just seen with the twins on Monday.
ABC News said he did a media training seminar about how to deflect personal questions in NY at some point, I think they said it was around the time he did the people interview so maybe he was doing more of that who knows.
You can't just google a name and get divorce records. You have to go to the marlyand vital records website. I was going to post the link but if you can't figure out how to look things up I will not waste my time.
SchmeckyGirl: No not really Maryland gov. has a case search website and you can look up anyone in the state of maryland and their court records online. Its in real time also. There is NO record of him on file in state of MD.
But his address on the Case file was annapolis MD not PA. And he filed the case not his wife. He filed for Absolute Divorce. In the state of MD Absolute Divorce can only happen for certain reasons...ie. adultry, abuse etc. Otherwise, you must be legally seperated for one year before the divorce is final.
Looking into this even deeper...In some of the articles of Steve and Kate his middle name is listed as Steve K. Nield and on the court case it says Steve C. Nield.
I dont think its him. His profile for his security company also lists him as Steve K. Nield
Looking at the way I wrote my last comment it was confusing..
NEILD is his last name but on the court case it says NIELD. So again It is not him.
Agree Teri that it is not relevant at all. But this just how things get all crazy. One little typo in a name and BAM the rumors start flying. Then come to find out its not even him to begin with. Thats why I had to prove it wrong!
I just bought the People magazine and read the article....not one piece of new info....very disappointing. Mostly People's commentary and then the same few quotes from Jon we've already seen floating around.
Karlene: Why can't you read it? I was able to read it fine. But I'm on a laptop not a pc. I could never read something like that on my blackberry though. lol. I just refuse to pay $5.00 for a magazine that I don't normally read just to read one article, so it's nice to be able to read it online.
Kateisblablabla, You are giving me SO MUCH entertainment. Thank you for having insight and understanding that CHILDREN ARE BEING EXPLOITED!!! For these fans who WILL NOT GET IT, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Watching children for entertainment is USUALLY a crime.
I have no idea what you are talking about but I'm relatively new here.
I joked yesterday that Baby Mama was probably Kate making her own fan site. So if that's what you were referring to it was just me being facetious... ooh, I got to use that in a sentence!
Gail said... Some of you still think Jon and Kate are trying to "work it out?" ----------------------------------------------- Personally, I think the only thing Jon and Kate are trying to work out is how to keep the show running while their family falls apart.
I thought for a while that Jon wanted out of the show and publicity. Now I think that Jon just wanted out of his life and didn't want to be caught not being "Jon the husband and father from Jon and Kate plus 8".
Now that their failed marriage is out in the open, Jon is willing to continue the show since now he can just be himself in the public eye. I still think he is a really good father though. I just think he is done with Kate.
Sadly, SchmeckyGirl, I agree w/ you on your last post more and more. I wish I didn't, but seeing all the pictures of them separate now and remembering back to all the last episodes in season 4 where there was one reason or another that they were apart...doesn't look good or like they're working on it that hard.
And Steve the bodyguard doesn't wear his wedding ring? Is that a bodyguard thing?
I have to say I've never been in the camp that says the Gosselin children are being exploited, even though I now think they should end the show to save their marriage and family.
The only truly weird thing I noticed was that at one time on the TLC website you could pay to download the kids pictures onto your cell phone. That just seemed wrong to me.
I only feel they are being exploited if they are not getting any money for what they are doing. If they don't have a trust fund set aside for them from earnings from the show (not that I know that is the case) then I do feel that is very wrong.
FIONA said... Gotta love Schmecky for posting a link to Pressi's site for all the tabloid news! You people are unbelievable SHEEP! ---------------------------------------------- Sheep? I have no idea what that means. I posted the page for the link for access to the People article. I don't care if people read tabloids or not. Doesn't matter to me. I don't buy them or read them. I don't care if other people do. And I have no idea who Pressi is. Is he/she a sheep too?
To those who couln't read the magazine link SchmeckyGirl posted I couln't either but if you save it on "my pictures" and then zoom in you can read perfectly.
BM is not Kate! She wants to be Kate, but Kate does not run this site. Please this would be protected like it was Declaration of INdependence if Kate and her "people" ran it. Just like her "blog" on TLC. No bad comments. As soon as one was typed it was gone.
BM is Melissa Soto from NJ. An everyday housewive. Not Queen Katie Irene.
Do you think Katie would run a blog and NOT get paid for it? SHe would charge all you sheeple everytime you clicked on the darn thing.
IMHO. two grown adults, who are supposed to be PARENTS, should not parade their children in front of cameras to provide the family income.
The family has completely fallen apart, TLC doesn't care, but wants to keep filming them anyway. Jon & Kate are presenting a confusing and false reality to their own children in order to continue this fiasco they call the family business. In my book this is called mental and emotional abuse. NOTHING about this family/show is real anymore, and it needs to be ended NOW.
These children need to be kept out of the public eye and be allowed to preserve what little is left of their childhoods. My God, what will it take to end this mockery!!
Gaby, ya i did the same thing, i was just going to post that as well. I do want to say though that just b/c they aren't being seen together doesn't mean they aren't going to try and work it out. Yes it does look bad but we are not them and don't know exactly what they are planning. I am a firm believer in not judging the outside by the cover. There could be a lot of work going on and into their marraige right now that we don't even see. The picture surfacing of Jon and Deanna was from a while ago, when apparently he was in a place in his life where for whatever reason that was ok to do. Hopefully now that will never be ok again. So even though the pic looks like new info it's really just same of the old info. I am glad to hear from the people interview that he is saying the questions about his marraige is private and he won't discuss it. Although I'd like to know, good for him!
I agree with you. I'm not sure about the word "abuse", but I do think it will have an emotional and mental affect on the children. Maybe it's the same thing. I just think "abuse" is a harsh word. Maybe neglect? Endangerment? lol.
Aside from money I can't think of a single reason why they would continue the show. I can't see how anyone would sacrifice their family for money and some fun in the sun.
Just Wondering, stop watching the show and the ratings will go down. Stop participating on Gosselin inspired blogs. You're keeping the entertainment alive by talking and watching.
And for any amount of credibility, stop posting on a hate site that has more comments about Kate's material things and her looks than advocating for the children. Aligning yourself with hate sites does not further your cause. If you truly think the Gosselin kids are in danger, be productive about helping them. Bad mouthing their mother will not help them.
arabella, I am not one of the Nielson families so it doesn't matter to the ratings if I watch or not. And if I can convince just one more person that Jon & Kate Gosselin are ruining the lives of her children by prolonging this show, then GREAT!
They are sacrificing the mental stability of their children. Plain and simple. Their greed seems to know no boundaries and will be legend for years to come. Make no mistake about it, they are destroying the very children they "hyperstimulated" themselves into producing.
I have been a therapist for 32 years and know only too well what issues these children are facing right this moment and the mountains of therapy which will be needed in the future. Their very lives are fiction being played out in a supposed reality television program! They are prompted to do cute and funny things for cameras and have learned that doing so is rewarding. This will create a need for attention that will be nearly impossible to correct later in life!
I can't even begin to describe all the things that are wrong with this family. I can only tell you that it is WRONG!! All of it. And none of it can be addressed with cameras in their faces.
And you know, I can appreciate the GWOP cause. I don't agree with it since I don't think the kids are being exploited; but if you do feel that way, start a blog, make a difference, do what you can. But GWOP is not about advocating for the kids anymore, if they ever were. They spend more time on Kate's appearance and the fact that she has stuff than on the kids' well being. And some of those peole are over the top LOONS. It brings all the posters down to their level.
Just wondering, that is just the problem. When you align yourself with the charactors at GWOP your message of helping gets lost in the OMG, KATE HAS 2 REFRIGERATORS!! LET'S SPIT ON HER. DID YOU SEE THOSE THUNDER THIGHS? LET'S LOOK UP THEIR ADDRESS AND POST IT ON LINE.
Unfortunately, we are judged by those we keep company with and I just can't take you seriously after I've read some of your posts on GWOP.
I totally agree. If that site had good intentions they are getting lost in what the blog has become.
They won't be taken seriously by anyone that goes on there and reads some of the crap that they are writing.
It shouldn't be about Kate's hair or her tan. It should be addressing the serious issues. I think the blog site needs to take control over there and not post the outrageous comments. It's embarrassing.
I agree with you. I used to think GWOP was hilarious but the Princess blogs are way more entertaining. I started reading when the focus was on Kate and I feel those people really have it all wrong.
Schmecky you provacative one! I think you should change your name to tongueincheekGirl. It took me a bit to figure out but enjoy the entertaining approach. as far as your blog taking too much time? that doesn't calculate since you are spending a lot of time here. you have cute kids even though the pics are old.....
so are we going to have some fun tonight or what? bring it on..... My prayer list isn't big enough yet.
PS Schmecky - my new nickname for you is troublemaker. consider it a friendly term as it was my childhood nickname, but I would prefer to pass that torch on!
arabella. There are several "Just Wondering" names at GWOP. Some are not on a google account, some are not capitalized, one says "just wonderin"...
I can assure you that I pay no attention to the size of Kate's thighs, the placement of her belly button, or any of the zillion zany things people tend to harp about.
My only concern is the welfare of the children. They are living a life of entitlement with a false sense of reality. The mother is narcissistic and their father is completely passive. The "show" is not their only hurdle, but it is one that can be stopped at any time.
Children with a narcissistic mother have three basic options:
They can become compliant and mold to other's expectations of what their identity should be. This sets them up actually become someone they are not.
They can rebel and spend their lives being oppositional to the point of sabataging their own goal.
They can identify with the narcissist and become one themselves.
Kate needs therapy, but I don't see her agreeing to any without a court order. And what I don't understand is why one hasn't been issued. Jon could insist on this, but he hasn't. I can only wonder why..
Which is where my name came from. I have spent two years wondering why any of this has been allowed.
wondering, I stopped reading when you diagnosed her. We do not know that she is what you are saying she is. I hate when people presume to know something about her when we all see the same footage. What kind of professional diagnoses someone they see on TV 22 minutes a week? Do you and Blah share a practice?
Terri: Thank you. I think. Lol. My daughters are 5- and 3-yrs old so the Sleeping Beauty pics are recent. You make it seem as if I have an agenda being here. I don't. As for my blog, I did find it too time consuming to update and monitor. It does not compare to a few hours here and there commenting. So am I correct to assume then that you are not really here to pray for anyone either?
Nicole, how would he know? Has he met with Kate for any length of time? Or is he basing that on a small amount of air time? And isn't he the guy who puts people on TV while they are going thru rehab? Yeah, that's a professional I would want on my side.
I am not a Kate defender. Please don't think I am all pro Kate. I just don't like people who assume and speculate about things that we have no way of knowing.
Trouble.... Oh my prayers are for real. but just because I am a woman of strong faith doesn't mean I don't have a sense of humor.....
I am taking most of your comments as thought provoking and not really motivated to destroy others right to their own opinion. I am pretty new here and just trying to figure out the players. It appears that Mama allows your comments to remain so I conclude my opinion is fairly accurate.
I think your only agenda is to enjoy the bantor and to have a forum to slip in an occasional “facetious”.... am I right?
Nicole, I just love Dr. Drew. He is the BEST. I saw him on Larry King talking about Kate. I have also heard other professionals saying that Kate is narcissistic. I think every knows, but Kate.
Okay, got it. You have an innate sense of character. Very astute.
I'm sorry if I was off about the prayer comment. I wasn't sure if you were a GWOP (that term is still new to me) in sheep's clothing. Sheep. Get it? (I still don't know exactly what the terms sheep and sheeple mean but I'm catching on). Anyway, I took you as serious about the prayer but then you threw me for a loop with your last comment to me.
I thought maybe you were a mole or something. Or thought I was. Or had me confused with someone else. There have been a few new people commenting since Baby Mama has been away and since I'm new here I have no idea who is who.
This GWOP and sheeple thing is confusing. I'm actually kind of fascinated and disgusted by it at the same time. I'm just trying to steer clear of it while still having some fun. Especially since there is no new Gosselin news to discuss.
And yes... you are right. Although I do genuinely enjoy discussing Jon and Kate Plus 8 and have no one else to discuss it with.
Thanks for the laugh though. You really cracked me up.
Dr. Drew... Well whatever you want to say about him, I respect him about 1,000 more times than Dr. Phil. He was pretty good in that sex show for teens with Adam whatshisface.
Children at age 5 should be well enough developed to sit unsupported in a regular chair and if they cannot then it's very obvious that they have developmental delays. At age 5 and still sitting in high chairs? Nobody mentioned their speech when I posted my comment? Why? They still talk like babies. For what higher ratings? Obviously a sign that they are not getting the help they need. It's a shame that fans look past this for their own personal entertainment. (A TV SHOW)
You cannot tell me these children do not have speech delays? I realize that yes, they were preemies.. I also realize that this is something expected from babies born prematurely, but Jon & Kate publicly (very publicly) advertise their every move for the cameras.. so why wouldn't they show on camera that the children are in speech classes?
I find it hard to believe that these people who are so open about every single thing in their life chose not to discuss their children in speech classes.. Know why because they are probably not in any type of speech therapy to begin with! And I know I'll hear the comments.. "You don't know what they do in their lives" "How do you know they're not in speech therapy" Blah blah blah....
Think you might be on the wrong blog. This is a fan site, not a "pick apart every little detail of their lives" blog. But since you asked...the chairs they sit in put them at the correct height at the table. If you are watching this season, their speech is developmentally on target for their age.
Hey Trouble (notice how I have shortened it even more?) me a mole? I guess you didn't check out my blog.... really not my style to give negative messages. my life goal is to spread hope not despair, art not ugliness, laughter not tears. having fun with you and I have to admit it really made me smile when I got to write the word (even though I had to spell check it). Do you remember when Kate used it last season?
back to Gosselin talk.... Holy Toledo now it's speech therapy? Goodness I am almost as old as Oprah and I can talk like a baby if it gets me what I want (like my dog to behave) Honestly now that is a real stretch. There has got to be something more palpable to be discussing.
Read my lips: They... are... not... high... chairs... now. They are booster chairs. Even you said get them booster seats. What is the difference? Now they make risers to make a regular chair higher for kids. Same thing. What's the difference, really?
I can't believe that is your big issue with the show! ROFLMAO!!!! Quick someone call the authorities because the Gosselins are abusing high chairs. Maybe they are waiting for someone to donate them a set of chairs. Knowing them, that's your answer.
Okay, we get it. They don't speak that well. So what do you want us to do? I already gave my opinion. Most likely their school is providing speech therapy. Maybe they can't film it in the school. Maybe they realized they are embarrassing their children enough on national television and decided against sharing with the entire world that their kids have to learn to talk better.
And yes, you answered your own questions. We don't know if they are in speech therapy. You know we don't know. So why are you asking us?
Oh wait! Let me guess. You ARE a speech therapist. You are hoping they realize they need one and will hire you.
Since you know so much about the subject... What I'd like to know is why is it that we spEAk, but what comes out is spEEch? Can you answer me that?
I did check your blog... after the fact. lol. I'm so used to clicking on a name here and finding nothing that I didn't think to bother until later.
I was going to comment that you seem like a very possitive person and I admire that and wish you the best, but I didn't want to intrude. lol. I love your pup. If I had a boy I was going to name him Connor. Thank you for ruining that for me. ;)
Yeah, what's up with the speech therapy thing? Okay so I went off a bit. Should I apologize to 3ei ei o?
Terri: It's 2freakinAM! I'm wired. Not sure why. Fortunately my girls never wake up before 8am so it's not that bad. I usually read but I just finished a book and the next book I'm waiting for isn't released until the 16th. I used to watch Nancy Grace but my husband would have nightmares hearing her shouting in his sleep. So Kate and Nancy are banned in the bedroom. *sigh
oh I could have a really cynical answer to your last paragraph. but then I will get bashed from the ever present gallery. Let's just leave it to Connor doesn't have much to say about my tv choice.
I am obviously between books and art projects. Thus my regular posts here. (note the other Kate word)
ok - go to bed now. Tylenol PM to my rescue! good night...
kateisblahblah said... but Kate wearing skirts so short her junk is about fall out is ok? Getting fake boobs and new teeth is ok?
Once again a bit of a double standard
LOL you totally missed my point. No double standard here. Lots of 30 something woman wear skirts and bikini's...but that isn't the point. In fact my comment about losing respect for Jon had NOTHING to do with Kate.It was the fact that all of a sudden he is trying to look so "hip & young" like a college frat boy. If Kate was going out and getting her belly button pierced right now I'd say the same thing.
Also, from reading the comments...some of you are sooo immature (kateisblahblah, Sue, FIONA). You guys probably have children of your own, or dare I say even grandchildren(?) and yet the things you are commenting on remind me of school yard bullies (you know the kind...). VERY IMMATURE. I'm young, but whats your excuse?
I don't get the high chair-gate, either. My youngest is very short for her age and doesn't feel secure with a booster seat - they wobble - so she uses a "high" chair. Never would have occured to me that that is a big deal.
And the whole speech thing. They are little kids. Kids develop at different rates! Once they go to school all day with other kids their age they will even out. I would so not be worried about it.
So that's your problem with jon and Kate? High chairs and speech? Sheesh. You're not even trying!
Also, multiples sometimes have developmental delays. I remember from the Dilley sextuplet specials years back that they said in multiples they reinforce each others bad speech. For example all six Dilleys said the word "girl" wrong, but they all pronounced it wrong the same way. I see that in the Gosselins too. Howver, some of the children speak better than others. Leah has always spoken very clearly and well, while Alexis has pronoun issues (him, her, them) and still kind talks baby talkish (pink bankie). Arabella you're right all that will get fixed in full time school. If not by listening to other kids, then the teacher will correct them.
DUE TO TROLLS KNOWING THESE POSTS ARE NOT MODERATED THIS WEEK I AM SHUTTING ALL COMMENTS DOWN UNTIL I CAN WEED THROUGH THEM. YOUR POSTS WILL BE ON IF I APPROVE THEM SUNDAY MORNING. THANK YOU.
I have a positive thing for discussion/speculation... What universities do you think the kids will be going to?
I think Cara will be at a Harvard-type institution; Maddy at an arty school; if the Gosselins ultimately stay in Pennsylvania, I think Hannah will be at Penn State since she is so shy; Alexis at NYU (I think she's a big city girl); Collin at MIT and maybe Aaden too; but I don't know yet for Leah and Joel.
Please refrain from picking on the Gosselin kids. They do not need to read that people think that they can't talk.
It is very typical for children who have one or more siblings the same age to develop their own language in a sense. They can understand each other, the siblings talk that way, that child will then continue to talk that way. They don't realize any different.
Whether this is the case or not we can't for sure say that there really is an issue. The kids do not have a mic on them. Therefor maybe just maybe its not that they have an issue, but maybe its a sound issue. Give the children a break, especially if you care so much about them.
Baby Mama...I am soo glad you are going to moderate the site again...I still don't understand why people have such disdain for this family AND want to post about it on a FAN site, let alone on a hate site. Why would you come to a fan site to post hateful things and call people names? Stay on the hate sites and do it. It is a sad world we live in when people have nothing better to do than tear others down, especially a family who may not be perfect, but who on earth is anyway? You either enjoy the show and watch it or you don't, period. Why take up what little precious time we have on this earth to be hateful and ugly towards other people, people you don't even know personally, that you see on TV. Who cares. Spend the time you waste on these sites saying negative stuff and put it into your own lives and families. TV is entertainment, that's all it is. Who cares if there are "fans" of the show, everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and feelings (yes even the "haters") and you probably won't change anyone's minds by posting negative stuff anyway. I don't think it helps anyone, especially the Gosselin children (which most "haters" say they are trying to protect), for people to post such negative and harsh things. Baby Mama, please, lets keep this site light and fun...I enjoy this site because it isn't negative, I have enough stress in my own life. :-)
They just turned five. Five year olds are still "baby like" in some of their mannerisms. From a person who taught pre-school, I see very little concerning signs from the children developmentally. They are beautiful, HEALTHY, happy children. Once again, they JUST turned five. If you go back and watch when they were four you can see a big difference in how they speak. They are much more articulate this year. Why are people so quick to pick on these children (really, the whole family)? Very few people could look as good as Kate in a bathing suit after two children--and she had eight. My younger brother had a couple of words he said "wrong" when he was around their age. Like some of the other posters said, you out grow it, go to therapy (if they do it is none of our business) or learn in regular school.
Sweet Alexis makes me laugh, they are all so funny! I love this family and feel like I defend them everyday to someone. The article with Jon in People wasn't very interesting--but the little things he said about the kids was cute.
Marriage, children, the overall dynamics of any relationship has alot of ups and downs. It is not what happens that matters, it is how you react to what happens that matters. I watch this show torn. Whether pro or con of this show, you have to admit, the "life" of the Gosselins is an example of every struggle, every incident of drama, or every moment of blessings is clearly shown in this show. What the public has to realize, whatever your stand on this show, Jon and Kate are just a young couple with eight children, who are living their lives the best they can with what life deals them. Has there been mistakes or regrets, of course. Should they learn from them and grow, of course. Have they? only Kate and Jon really know or should know. We have seen the ups and downs, but, not everything and we shouldn't to some degree. I beleive Jon and Kate have lost their way of their relationship, but every marriage goes through this. Let them have the privacy they need to come together or go apart. (but, of course, I pray for them to come together again because I loved to watch them and their love earlier in the show)Get away together as a couple, the realtionship has lost focus, because all the focus had been on the kids. The kids should be the first priority, but the relationship needs attention too. God Bless this family. I pray for the Gosselins to have peace and live life the best they can. However they and God choose for their path to take them.
Alexa is soooooo cute!
ReplyDeleteLOL!!! I meant Alexis. My friend's daughter's name is Alexa. Ooops.
ReplyDeleteI love Alexis too - she cracks me UP!!
ReplyDeleteSchmeckyGirl- I completely agree with everything you say. It's finally nice to see someone with opposing viewpoints in an intelligent, respectful manner. There really is no need to bash Kate's thighs or anything else ridiculous like that. I just believe that the show needs to end and Kate needs to get her priorities straight.
ReplyDeleteEven though the Gosselins are still in the news and making headlines daily the posts from all the gosselin blog sites seem to be slow. :( No offense BabyMama b/c I'm sure your busy. What mom isn't? Just noting the lack of posts on all the gosselin blogs.
ReplyDeletenew pics of the kids cooking w/ emeril on the tlc site. wouldn't let me paste a link.
ReplyDeletetwo new webisodes also
ReplyDeleteI think posts on this topic and others are making too much of the "fan" comment in the cake episode. On the first episode when Kate was at a book signing, she went on and on about how much she appreciated fans of the show. I feel like people are "looking" for things to be critical about.
ReplyDeleteHi fellow fans....
ReplyDeleteI have recently made a commitment to spend a few moments each day in prayer for the Gosselins. I hope others will be inspired to do the same.
I have never witnessed such a strong reaction and am saddened by the cult that has united to spread such destructive wreckage where ever they go. I also make a commitment to try my best not to engage in conversation with them. If I am criticized for my support, then I will take it with the knowledge that it is mearly the dark side acting out once again. There will always be a dark side attacking those with pure motives..... I will remember this and not give into the temptation. I will win this test and not repay evil for evil.... God help me in my efforts.....
I am new tp this whole blogging thing but I have been trying to find a way to tell the Gosselin Family to hang in there and to understand that everyone needs to be who they are meant to be not who someone wants them to be and love them for that!!!!
ReplyDeletehey baby mama i was just wondering if you could repost kate's upcoming speaking engagements on this new site.
ReplyDeleteBabyMama... Is there any way you could approve posts before they get put up? I know you are busy but I know you created this forum for positive-only comments from true fans. I was hoping not to have to sift through negative anti-Gosselin ones here (most recently "kateisblahblah"). I am so sick to death of seeing those kinds and thought your site and forum was a breath of fresh air... til I see the trash commens again.
ReplyDeleteBabymama said yesterday that she is out of town and that is why a certain person is here...only to take advantage of the situation. Babymama said that she didn't want to put this blog on "moderation before posting". I guess she was hoping that there would be grownups posting.
ReplyDeleteI've always liked Jon but I am slowly losing more and more respect for him. Like seriously, he is wearing Ed Hardy and just got his ear pierced???
ReplyDeleteLovetheGosselinKIDS:
ReplyDeleteHi! Thank you. Nice to meet you.
Katieisblahblah, I will pray for you. I dont know you, but I will still pray for you. EVERYONE can use prayers.
ReplyDeleteFroggy- Thanks for the positive inspiration. I totally agree with your comment. Since The Father loves all those he created, I can certainly add more to my ever growing list.
ReplyDeleteI thought about this after my last post, but thanks for adding it so eloquently! Maybe we can start a trend...
Terri:
ReplyDeleteI'm confused. What do you want people to pray for? I know for the Gosselins, but what for?
Pray that they come to their senses and quit the show and focus on their family? Pray that they make more money to support their children during a divorce? Pray they stay together as a family regardless of anything else? Pray that they are all happy together or separately? I'm lost. Pray for what? Seriously. I don't know what you want people to pray for as far as the Gosselins are concerned... ????
Are they really high chairs? I mean do they have the the bar in front of them and something between their legs to hold them in? I never noticed. If not, then they may just be glorified stools. lol.
ReplyDeleteBooster seat, high chair? What's the difference? The whole point is for them to be able to reach the table without leaning on their knees. Let it go people.
Besides, they were high-risk multiples. They are probably small for their age and may even be more developmentally delayed. They may be in speech therapy. Really good schools provide that stuff. They know what to look for. Trust me, I know. Why pick on them for that when there is so much more to pick on Jon and Kate for?
I don't think they are still sitting in baby high chairs. They sit in what used to be baby high chairs. Now it is just a chair that is high. They dont have the bar and anything between their legs. And as of the birthday episode, they dont wear the bibs anymore.
ReplyDeleteBesides, who cares if they sit in high chairs, I am short and sometimes I wish I had a high chair to sit comfortably in!
Schmeckygirl -
ReplyDeleteMy prayers are pretty much the same for anyone I pray for, including my personal prayers. I pray for His guidance in all things, I ask that He provide strength and comfort when needed. I especially and consistantly pray that we hear what He wants us to hear and to say what He wants us to say. I usually ask that any shortcomings are removed so that He can be better served by us....
Okay, can you click on this link below?
ReplyDeleteIt explains the "high chairs". If you can't click on the link it basically is Jon and Kate explaining the chairs. You can google it if you want.
The chairs go from being a "high chair" to being a "booster seat". They liked them because they have a stable base and you can remove the straps and the kids can get out of them themselves like a chair and they are made for the age range of 2-5 years old.
So basically it is like a stool with sides and a back so the kids can't fall off. Which is great because then we'd hear everyone complaining that Jon and Kate have their kids sitting on dangerous stools and that they should be arrested for child endangerment.
Okay, can we end the "high chair debate" once and for all?
LINK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnzm0rUDOlU&feature=player_embedded
Terri:
ReplyDeleteThanks. So you were referring to just a basic prayer. Got it. Thanks for your reply.
Bottom line is that I don't get too caught up in the particular words in my prayers. My God knows my heart and understands my motives. He is way smarter than me! Thanks for asking the question.
ReplyDeleteGaby:
ReplyDeleteHi! Yep. You were right. No bar or strap on the "chair" just like you said. I figured that just as much. Funny thing is it was so easy to find out online. Gotta love google!
SchmeckyGirl...
ReplyDeleteCompletely agree...the high chair, bibs, and kateisblahblah (I just added that one in)...all just need to be dropped :)
I enjoy reading your posts because they but a balanced view on both sides of the coin.
I just don't understand how someone could get worked up about bibs and high chairs. If you are going to have a problem with someone, have a real problem with them. Has Blah been back?
ReplyDeleteGod tells us to encourage one another and build each other up. He wants us to care for all people. He wants us to support others and pray for them during good times and bad. Jon and Kate now more than ever need God's support and our support. God is a very powerful being and can work amazing things. I personally have seen dramatic change that had to have come from God. You do not need to know someone personally to pray for them. Being said, I feel like in some way I know Kate and Jon. I can certainly feel their pain. I want for them what is best for each individual in their family. I want the outcome to be what is most glorifying to God.
ReplyDeleteAs for all the little nit-picking items, people need to let them go. I will however stick up for Kate. I have 6 kids. I too have these "high chairs/ boosters". They are great. They get the kids closer to the top of the table and it makes it easier for them. And the bib thing, if my 7 year old would keep one on, I would make her wear it at every meal. It is a lot of physical work to raise a lot of kids. When I see that one of my kids has spilt food on their clothes, I am not mad, just overwhelmed by the thought of "well that's one more stain I have to try to get out" in my already jammed packed day.
Who cares if Kate does have help. I wish I did. She has 8 kids. That is 3-4 times the number of kids that the average american family has. Please give Kate a break. Please turn your hatred or jealous into love, care and compassion for this family. Our prayers and positivity can only help.
Terri & Melissa - "Amen" to all that. My kids are in college now but one thing I've learned... being a mom never really gets that much easier.. it just changes!
ReplyDeleteOMG! Steve the bodyguard is divorced! !Separated in Sept 2008/Finalized April 2009!!!!! OH NO...You don't think they are together? My hopes are dashed for a Jon and Kate reconcilation!!!!!
ReplyDeleteM where are you finding this information? I don't see anything about a Steve Neild divorce using Google or MS Bing...
ReplyDeleteI also didn't find that info as well. probably just a hater spreading lies.
ReplyDeleteif anyone gets the people magazine article w/ Jon could you share it w/ those of us who don't live where they are going to put that on the market 1st day of sale.
ReplyDeleteIn all the recent photos of Jon and Kate both still have their wedding rings on. So if they were heading for divorce and not trying to work things out wouldn't they have taken them off by now?
ReplyDeleteBTW, in the photos just in from justjarred Jon is photographed in Ed Harley sweatshirt and his luggage. Does anyone know where he was or where he might be going? Who says he was coming back from somewhere? Maybe he, Mady and Cara are going to meet Kate and tups in NC? He was just seen with the twins on Monday.
ABC News said he did a media training seminar about how to deflect personal questions in NY at some point, I think they said it was around the time he did the people interview so maybe he was doing more of that who knows.
ReplyDeleteJJ has pics of Kate and the tups taken today already of her going grocery shopping w/ everyone.
ReplyDeleteYou can't just google a name and get divorce records. You have to go to the marlyand vital records website. I was going to post the link but if you can't figure out how to look things up I will not waste my time.
ReplyDeleteOn a public records search the address for Steve Neild comes up as Heffner Rd and Wernersville, PA. Isnt that Kate's house?
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure you have to pay a fee if you want to look up any court record online.
ReplyDeleteSchmeckyGirl:
ReplyDeleteNo not really Maryland gov. has a case search website and you can look up anyone in the state of maryland and their court records online. Its in real time also. There is NO record of him on file in state of MD.
Ok never mind I retract that statement. He does have a divorce case in the state of MD. I typed his name wrong.
ReplyDeletedancnmommy!
ReplyDeleteThanks for backing me up! Don't like me called a liar.
But his address on the Case file was annapolis MD not PA. And he filed the case not his wife. He filed for Absolute Divorce. In the state of MD Absolute Divorce can only happen for certain reasons...ie. adultry, abuse etc. Otherwise, you must be legally seperated for one year before the divorce is final.
ReplyDeletemeant DOn't like being called a liar. Gosh I just can't type complete sentences today lol
ReplyDeleteAnd I have to mention...I dont believe that Kate and Steve are together. I dont think this proves anything.
ReplyDeleteLOL...its me again...
ReplyDeleteLooking into this even deeper...In some of the articles of Steve and Kate his middle name is listed as Steve K. Nield and on the court case it says Steve C. Nield.
I dont think its him.
His profile for his security company also lists him as Steve K. Nield
OK last time I swear just to prove a point..
ReplyDeleteHis last name is spelled NEILD on the court case it is NIELD..
Its not him!!
this entire body guard subject is hardly relevent to the Gosselins....
ReplyDeletethe last name is NEILD not NIELD.....
on to better things, including prayer.
Have an awesome Friday fellow Fans.
Looking at the way I wrote my last comment it was confusing..
ReplyDeleteNEILD is his last name but on the court case it says NIELD. So again It is not him.
Agree Teri that it is not relevant at all. But this just how things get all crazy. One little typo in a name and BAM the rumors start flying. Then come to find out its not even him to begin with. Thats why I had to prove it wrong!
PEOPLE MAGAZINE featuring Jon Gosselin articles scanned:
ReplyDeletehttp://preesi.lefora.com/2009/06/04/people-mag-scans-june-15-2009/page1/
Thanks for the link on the article from People. I wish I could read it though.
ReplyDeleteI just bought the People magazine and read the article....not one piece of new info....very disappointing. Mostly People's commentary and then the same few quotes from Jon we've already seen floating around.
ReplyDeleteKarlene:
ReplyDeleteWhy can't you read it? I was able to read it fine. But I'm on a laptop not a pc. I could never read something like that on my blackberry though. lol. I just refuse to pay $5.00 for a magazine that I don't normally read just to read one article, so it's nice to be able to read it online.
SchmeckyGirl:
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure why I can't read the print. I'm on a laptop. I even went my husbands pc and it's the same. bummed:(
Karlene:
ReplyDeleteMaybe it was the link I sent you. What if you click on it yourself? There are a bunch on here but I only read the one.
http://preesi.lefora.com/forum/category/my-case-against-kate-gosselin/page1/
SchmeckyGirl:
ReplyDeleteI can't seem to read any of the print on any of the mag articles scanned on the whole site. Do I need to join to be able to view? Are you on a MAC?
I can't read it either...too blurry. I guess I'll get over it! :) Did you say it was nothing new?
ReplyDeleteI'm a little glad it's not just me. (sorry KYMama) I'd hate to buy the mag and it's nothing new.
ReplyDeleteKarlene:
ReplyDeleteReally? Odd. Nope, I'm not a member or anything. I'm not on a MAC either. The print is small but not too small to read.
SchmeckyGirl:
ReplyDeleteIt's not just a matter of it being small print it's just not completely clear. Oh, well thanks for trying to help.
Someone said that BabyMama was really Kate. But I thought one of the reporters said she was Melissa Soto, from New Jersey.
ReplyDeleteKateisblablabla,
ReplyDeleteYou are giving me SO MUCH entertainment.
Thank you for having insight and understanding that
CHILDREN ARE BEING EXPLOITED!!!
For these fans who WILL NOT GET IT, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Watching children for entertainment is USUALLY a crime.
just wondering:
ReplyDeleteReporters? I don't know who Melissa Soto is.
I have no idea what you are talking about but I'm relatively new here.
I joked yesterday that Baby Mama was probably Kate making her own fan site. So if that's what you were referring to it was just me being facetious... ooh, I got to use that in a sentence!
Gail:
ReplyDeleteHi. Sorry, but I think Katie's mommy may have banned her from using the family pc. She hasn't been on all day today.
Some of you still think Jon and Kate are trying to "work it out?"
ReplyDeleteYou guys are amazingly ignorant. Congrats for making
Paris Hilton fans look like geniuses.
Gail said...
ReplyDeleteSome of you still think Jon and Kate are trying to "work it out?"
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Personally, I think the only thing Jon and Kate are trying to work out is how to keep the show running while their family falls apart.
I thought for a while that Jon wanted out of the show and publicity. Now I think that Jon just wanted out of his life and didn't want to be caught not being "Jon the husband and father from Jon and Kate plus 8".
Now that their failed marriage is out in the open, Jon is willing to continue the show since now he can just be himself in the public eye. I still think he is a really good father though. I just think he is done with Kate.
Sadly, SchmeckyGirl, I agree w/ you on your last post more and more. I wish I didn't, but seeing all the pictures of them separate now and remembering back to all the last episodes in season 4 where there was one reason or another that they were apart...doesn't look good or like they're working on it that hard.
ReplyDeleteAnd Steve the bodyguard doesn't wear his wedding ring? Is that a bodyguard thing?
I know a Melissa Soto from Absecon New Jersey.
ReplyDeleteI have to say I've never been in the camp that says the Gosselin children are being exploited, even though I now think they should end the show to save their marriage and family.
ReplyDeleteThe only truly weird thing I noticed was that at one time on the TLC website you could pay to download the kids pictures onto your cell phone. That just seemed wrong to me.
Gotta love Schmecky for posting a link to Pressi's site for all the tabloid news! You people are unbelievable SHEEP!
ReplyDeletetiredmama:
ReplyDeleteI only feel they are being exploited if they are not getting any money for what they are doing. If they don't have a trust fund set aside for them from earnings from the show (not that I know that is the case) then I do feel that is very wrong.
FIONA said...
ReplyDeleteGotta love Schmecky for posting a link to Pressi's site for all the tabloid news! You people are unbelievable SHEEP!
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Sheep? I have no idea what that means.
I posted the page for the link for access to the People article. I don't care if people read tabloids or not. Doesn't matter to me. I don't buy them or read them. I don't care if other people do.
And I have no idea who Pressi is. Is he/she a sheep too?
To those who couln't read the magazine link SchmeckyGirl posted I couln't either but if you save it on "my pictures" and then zoom in you can read perfectly.
ReplyDeleteI am at work so I am on a desktop =)
BM is not Kate! She wants to be Kate, but Kate does not run this site. Please this would be protected like it was Declaration of INdependence if Kate and her "people" ran it. Just like her "blog" on TLC. No bad comments. As soon as one was typed it was gone.
ReplyDeleteBM is Melissa Soto from NJ. An everyday housewive. Not Queen Katie Irene.
Do you think Katie would run a blog and NOT get paid for it? SHe would charge all you sheeple everytime you clicked on the darn thing.
IMHO. two grown adults, who are supposed to be PARENTS, should not parade their children in front of cameras to provide the family income.
ReplyDeleteThe family has completely fallen apart, TLC doesn't care, but wants to keep filming them anyway. Jon & Kate are presenting a confusing and false reality to their own children in order to continue this fiasco they call the family business. In my book this is called mental and emotional abuse. NOTHING about this family/show is real anymore, and it needs to be ended NOW.
These children need to be kept out of the public eye and be allowed to preserve what little is left of their childhoods. My God, what will it take to end this mockery!!
Gaby, ya i did the same thing, i was just going to post that as well. I do want to say though that just b/c they aren't being seen together doesn't mean they aren't going to try and work it out. Yes it does look bad but we are not them and don't know exactly what they are planning. I am a firm believer in not judging the outside by the cover. There could be a lot of work going on and into their marraige right now that we don't even see. The picture surfacing of Jon and Deanna was from a while ago, when apparently he was in a place in his life where for whatever reason that was ok to do. Hopefully now that will never be ok again. So even though the pic looks like new info it's really just same of the old info. I am glad to hear from the people interview that he is saying the questions about his marraige is private and he won't discuss it. Although I'd like to know, good for him!
ReplyDeletejust wondering:
ReplyDeleteI agree with you. I'm not sure about the word "abuse", but I do think it will have an emotional and mental affect on the children. Maybe it's the same thing. I just think "abuse" is a harsh word. Maybe neglect? Endangerment? lol.
Aside from money I can't think of a single reason why they would continue the show. I can't see how anyone would sacrifice their family for money and some fun in the sun.
All the Jon and Kate haters, do you guys read on the princess blogs? Hysterical! They've mentioned you, FIONA. Check it out.
ReplyDeletePrincess Blogs?
ReplyDeleteJust Wondering, stop watching the show and the ratings will go down. Stop participating on Gosselin inspired blogs. You're keeping the entertainment alive by talking and watching.
ReplyDeleteAnd for any amount of credibility, stop posting on a hate site that has more comments about Kate's material things and her looks than advocating for the children. Aligning yourself with hate sites does not further your cause. If you truly think the Gosselin kids are in danger, be productive about helping them. Bad mouthing their mother will not help them.
Schmecky, never posted a link before. Hope it works. I start my day with this blog.
ReplyDeletehttp://princessmc.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Books&action=display&thread=2545&page=353
Gaby:
ReplyDeleteThank you for the help on viewing the People article.
Oh, no. Don't tell me that FIONA is allowed to post here. I read that she was banned from posting anywhere.
ReplyDeletearabella,
ReplyDeleteI love it! thanks for sharing
arabella, I am not one of the Nielson families so it doesn't matter to the ratings if I watch or not. And if I can convince just one more person that Jon & Kate Gosselin are ruining the lives of her children by prolonging this show, then GREAT!
ReplyDeleteThey are sacrificing the mental stability of their children. Plain and simple. Their greed seems to know no boundaries and will be legend for years to come. Make no mistake about it, they are destroying the very children they "hyperstimulated" themselves into producing.
I have been a therapist for 32 years and know only too well what issues these children are facing right this moment and the mountains of therapy which will be needed in the future. Their very lives are fiction being played out in a supposed reality television program! They are prompted to do cute and funny things for cameras and have learned that doing so is rewarding. This will create a need for attention that will be nearly impossible to correct later in life!
I can't even begin to describe all the things that are wrong with this family. I can only tell you that it is WRONG!! All of it. And none of it can be addressed with cameras in their faces.
Glad you like it, Gaby. They are hysterical.
ReplyDeleteAnd you know, I can appreciate the GWOP cause. I don't agree with it since I don't think the kids are being exploited; but if you do feel that way, start a blog, make a difference, do what you can. But GWOP is not about advocating for the kids anymore, if they ever were. They spend more time on Kate's appearance and the fact that she has stuff than on the kids' well being. And some of those peole are over the top LOONS. It brings all the posters down to their level.
Just wondering, that is just the problem. When you align yourself with the charactors at GWOP your message of helping gets lost in the OMG, KATE HAS 2 REFRIGERATORS!! LET'S SPIT ON HER. DID YOU SEE THOSE THUNDER THIGHS? LET'S LOOK UP THEIR ADDRESS AND POST IT ON LINE.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, we are judged by those we keep company with and I just can't take you seriously after I've read some of your posts on GWOP.
arabella:
ReplyDeleteI totally agree. If that site had good intentions they are getting lost in what the blog has become.
They won't be taken seriously by anyone that goes on there and reads some of the crap that they are writing.
It shouldn't be about Kate's hair or her tan. It should be addressing the serious issues. I think the blog site needs to take control over there and not post the outrageous comments. It's embarrassing.
arabella,
ReplyDeleteI agree with you. I used to think GWOP was hilarious but the Princess blogs are way more entertaining. I started reading when the focus was on Kate and I feel those people really have it all wrong.
OK, I am not a Kate fan but I am getting concerned. Is BabyMomma OK? She keeps her board so disciplined and it's obvious something is wrong.
ReplyDeleteDenise - she is on vacation but back any day now.
ReplyDeleteSchmecky you provacative one! I think you should change your name to tongueincheekGirl. It took me a bit to figure out but enjoy the entertaining approach. as far as your blog taking too much time? that doesn't calculate since you are spending a lot of time here. you have cute kids even though the pics are old.....
so are we going to have some fun tonight or what? bring it on..... My prayer list isn't big enough yet.
PS Schmecky - my new nickname for you is troublemaker. consider it a friendly term as it was my childhood nickname, but I would prefer to pass that torch on!
ReplyDeletearabella. There are several "Just Wondering" names at GWOP. Some are not on a google account, some are not capitalized, one says "just wonderin"...
ReplyDeleteI can assure you that I pay no attention to the size of Kate's thighs, the placement of her belly button, or any of the zillion zany things people tend to harp about.
My only concern is the welfare of the children. They are living a life of entitlement with a false sense of reality. The mother is narcissistic and their father is completely passive. The "show" is not their only hurdle, but it is one that can be stopped at any time.
Children with a narcissistic mother have three basic options:
They can become compliant and mold to other's expectations of what their identity should be. This sets them up actually become someone they are not.
They can rebel and spend their lives being oppositional to the point of sabataging their own goal.
They can identify with the narcissist and become one themselves.
Kate needs therapy, but I don't see her agreeing to any without a court order. And what I don't understand is why one hasn't been issued. Jon could insist on this, but he hasn't. I can only wonder why..
Which is where my name came from. I have spent two years wondering why any of this has been allowed.
Where did Kateisblahblah and Denise go? Much more fun when they are around. Otherwise this site is full of a bunch boring ass people
ReplyDeletewondering, I stopped reading when you diagnosed her. We do not know that she is what you are saying she is. I hate when people presume to know something about her when we all see the same footage. What kind of professional diagnoses someone they see on TV 22 minutes a week? Do you and Blah share a practice?
ReplyDeleteTerri:
ReplyDeleteThank you. I think. Lol.
My daughters are 5- and 3-yrs old so the Sleeping Beauty pics are recent.
You make it seem as if I have an agenda being here. I don't.
As for my blog, I did find it too time consuming to update and monitor.
It does not compare to a few hours here and there commenting.
So am I correct to assume then that you are not really here to pray for anyone either?
Dr. Drew even said that Kate was narcissistic. I think he would know. After all, he wrote a book about it.
ReplyDeleteNicole, how would he know? Has he met with Kate for any length of time? Or is he basing that on a small amount of air time? And isn't he the guy who puts people on TV while they are going thru rehab? Yeah, that's a professional I would want on my side.
ReplyDeleteI am not a Kate defender. Please don't think I am all pro Kate. I just don't like people who assume and speculate about things that we have no way of knowing.
Trouble....
ReplyDeleteOh my prayers are for real. but just because I am a woman of strong faith doesn't mean I don't have a sense of humor.....
I am taking most of your comments as thought provoking and not really motivated to destroy others right to their own opinion. I am pretty new here and just trying to figure out the players. It appears that Mama allows your comments to remain so I conclude my opinion is fairly accurate.
I think your only agenda is to enjoy the bantor and to have a forum to slip in an occasional “facetious”.... am I right?
Nicole,
ReplyDeleteI just love Dr. Drew. He is the BEST. I saw him on Larry King talking about Kate. I have also heard other professionals saying that Kate is narcissistic. I think every knows, but Kate.
Terri said...
ReplyDeleteTrouble....
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LMAO!!!
Okay, got it. You have an innate sense of character. Very astute.
I'm sorry if I was off about the prayer comment. I wasn't sure if you were a GWOP (that term is still new to me) in sheep's clothing. Sheep. Get it? (I still don't know exactly what the terms sheep and sheeple mean but I'm catching on). Anyway, I took you as serious about the prayer but then you threw me for a loop with your last comment to me.
I thought maybe you were a mole or something. Or thought I was. Or had me confused with someone else. There have been a few new people commenting since Baby Mama has been away and since I'm new here I have no idea who is who.
This GWOP and sheeple thing is confusing. I'm actually kind of fascinated and disgusted by it at the same time. I'm just trying to steer clear of it while still having some fun. Especially since there is no new Gosselin news to discuss.
And yes... you are right. Although I do genuinely enjoy discussing Jon and Kate Plus 8 and have no one else to discuss it with.
Thanks for the laugh though. You really cracked me up.
Dr. Drew... Well whatever you want to say about him, I respect him about 1,000 more times than Dr. Phil. He was pretty good in that sex show for teens with Adam whatshisface.
ReplyDeleteChildren at age 5 should be well enough developed to sit unsupported in a regular chair and if they cannot then it's very obvious that they have developmental delays. At age 5 and still sitting in high chairs?
ReplyDeleteNobody mentioned their speech when I posted my comment? Why?
They still talk like babies. For what higher ratings?
Obviously a sign that they are not getting the help they need. It's a shame that fans look past this for their own personal entertainment. (A TV SHOW)
You cannot tell me these children do not have speech delays? I realize that yes, they were preemies.. I also realize that this is something expected from babies born prematurely, but Jon & Kate publicly (very publicly) advertise their every move for the cameras.. so why wouldn't they show on camera that the children are in speech classes?
I find it hard to believe that these people who are so open about every single thing in their life chose not to discuss their children in speech classes.. Know why because they are probably not in any type of speech therapy to begin with! And I know I'll hear the comments..
"You don't know what they do in their lives"
"How do you know they're not in speech therapy"
Blah blah blah....
Think you might be on the wrong blog. This is a fan site, not a "pick apart every little detail of their lives" blog. But since you asked...the chairs they sit in put them at the correct height at the table. If you are watching this season, their speech is developmentally on target for their age.
ReplyDeleteHey Trouble (notice how I have shortened it even more?) me a mole? I guess you didn't check out my blog.... really not my style to give negative messages. my life goal is to spread hope not despair, art not ugliness, laughter not tears. having fun with you and I have to admit it really made me smile when I got to write the word (even though I had to spell check it). Do you remember when Kate used it last season?
ReplyDeleteback to Gosselin talk.... Holy Toledo now it's speech therapy? Goodness I am almost as old as Oprah and I can talk like a baby if it gets me what I want (like my dog to behave) Honestly now that is a real stretch. There has got to be something more palpable to be discussing.
i3evxox:
ReplyDeleteAre you still on this topic?
Read my lips: They... are... not... high... chairs... now. They are booster chairs. Even you said get them booster seats. What is the difference? Now they make risers to make a regular chair higher for kids. Same thing. What's the difference, really?
I can't believe that is your big issue with the show! ROFLMAO!!!! Quick someone call the authorities because the Gosselins are abusing high chairs. Maybe they are waiting for someone to donate them a set of chairs. Knowing them, that's your answer.
Okay, we get it. They don't speak that well. So what do you want us to do? I already gave my opinion. Most likely their school is providing speech therapy. Maybe they can't film it in the school. Maybe they realized they are embarrassing their children enough on national television and decided against sharing with the entire world that their kids have to learn to talk better.
And yes, you answered your own questions. We don't know if they are in speech therapy. You know we don't know. So why are you asking us?
Oh wait! Let me guess. You ARE a speech therapist. You are hoping they realize they need one and will hire you.
Since you know so much about the subject... What I'd like to know is why is it that we spEAk, but what comes out is spEEch? Can you answer me that?
Terri:
ReplyDeleteI did check your blog... after the fact. lol. I'm so used to clicking on a name here and finding nothing that I didn't think to bother until later.
I was going to comment that you seem like a very possitive person and I admire that and wish you the best, but I didn't want to intrude. lol. I love your pup. If I had a boy I was going to name him Connor. Thank you for ruining that for me. ;)
Yeah, what's up with the speech therapy thing? Okay so I went off a bit. Should I apologize to 3ei ei o?
i3evxox:
ReplyDeleteSorry I went off on you. I apologize. It wasn't meant viciously. It's 2am and I can't sleep...
But if you say High Chair one more time I can't guarantee I won't react again. lol.
don't give up on such a good word! you crack me up. and you are a real night owl for someone with young ones....
ReplyDeleteoh and I don't get the Sheeple thing either. I will own the sheep label any day though. Because I know the best Shepherd to follow!!
I dig all the commotion about the chairs. I just shake my head .....
Terri:
ReplyDeleteIt's 2freakinAM! I'm wired. Not sure why. Fortunately my girls never wake up before 8am so it's not that bad.
I usually read but I just finished a book and the next book I'm waiting for isn't released until the 16th.
I used to watch Nancy Grace but my husband would have nightmares hearing her shouting in his sleep. So Kate and Nancy are banned in the bedroom. *sigh
oh I could have a really cynical answer to your last paragraph. but then I will get bashed from the ever present gallery. Let's just leave it to Connor doesn't have much to say about my tv choice.
ReplyDeleteI am obviously between books and art projects. Thus my regular posts here. (note the other Kate word)
ok - go to bed now. Tylenol PM to my rescue!
good night...
kateisblahblah said...
ReplyDeletebut Kate wearing skirts so short her junk is about fall out is ok? Getting fake boobs and new teeth is ok?
Once again a bit of a double standard
LOL you totally missed my point. No double standard here. Lots of 30 something woman wear skirts and bikini's...but that isn't the point. In fact my comment about losing respect for Jon had NOTHING to do with Kate.It was the fact that all of a sudden he is trying to look so "hip & young" like a college frat boy. If Kate was going out and getting her belly button pierced right now I'd say the same thing.
Also, from reading the comments...some of you are sooo immature (kateisblahblah, Sue, FIONA). You guys probably have children of your own, or dare I say even grandchildren(?) and yet the things you are commenting on remind me of school yard bullies (you know the kind...). VERY IMMATURE. I'm young, but whats your excuse?
ReplyDeleteI don't get the high chair-gate, either. My youngest is very short for her age and doesn't feel secure with a booster seat - they wobble - so she uses a "high" chair. Never would have occured to me that that is a big deal.
ReplyDeleteAnd the whole speech thing. They are little kids. Kids develop at different rates! Once they go to school all day with other kids their age they will even out. I would so not be worried about it.
So that's your problem with jon and Kate? High chairs and speech? Sheesh. You're not even trying!
Also, multiples sometimes have developmental delays. I remember from the Dilley sextuplet specials years back that they said in multiples they reinforce each others bad speech. For example all six Dilleys said the word "girl" wrong, but they all pronounced it wrong the same way. I see that in the Gosselins too. Howver, some of the children speak better than others. Leah has always spoken very clearly and well, while Alexis has pronoun issues (him, her, them) and still kind talks baby talkish (pink bankie). Arabella you're right all that will get fixed in full time school. If not by listening to other kids, then the teacher will correct them.
ReplyDeleteDUE TO TROLLS KNOWING THESE POSTS ARE NOT MODERATED THIS WEEK I AM SHUTTING ALL COMMENTS DOWN UNTIL I CAN WEED THROUGH THEM. YOUR POSTS WILL BE ON IF I APPROVE THEM SUNDAY MORNING. THANK YOU.
ReplyDeleteI have a positive thing for discussion/speculation... What universities do you think the kids will be going to?
ReplyDeleteI think Cara will be at a Harvard-type institution; Maddy at an arty school; if the Gosselins ultimately stay in Pennsylvania, I think Hannah will be at Penn State since she is so shy; Alexis at NYU (I think she's a big city girl); Collin at MIT and maybe Aaden too; but I don't know yet for Leah and Joel.
Please refrain from picking on the Gosselin kids. They do not need to read that people think that they can't talk.
ReplyDeleteIt is very typical for children who have one or more siblings the same age to develop their own language in a sense. They can understand each other, the siblings talk that way, that child will then continue to talk that way. They don't realize any different.
Whether this is the case or not we can't for sure say that there really is an issue. The kids do not have a mic on them. Therefor maybe just maybe its not that they have an issue, but maybe its a sound issue.
Give the children a break, especially if you care so much about them.
I am praying for you Gosselin Family!!!
Baby Mama...I am soo glad you are going to moderate the site again...I still don't understand why people have such disdain for this family AND want to post about it on a FAN site, let alone on a hate site. Why would you come to a fan site to post hateful things and call people names? Stay on the hate sites and do it. It is a sad world we live in when people have nothing better to do than tear others down, especially a family who may not be perfect, but who on earth is anyway? You either enjoy the show and watch it or you don't, period. Why take up what little precious time we have on this earth to be hateful and ugly towards other people, people you don't even know personally, that you see on TV. Who cares. Spend the time you waste on these sites saying negative stuff and put it into your own lives and families. TV is entertainment, that's all it is. Who cares if there are "fans" of the show, everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and feelings (yes even the "haters") and you probably won't change anyone's minds by posting negative stuff anyway. I don't think it helps anyone, especially the Gosselin children (which most "haters" say they are trying to protect), for people to post such negative and harsh things. Baby Mama, please, lets keep this site light and fun...I enjoy this site because it isn't negative, I have enough stress in my own life. :-)
ReplyDeleteThey just turned five. Five year olds are still "baby like" in some of their mannerisms. From a person who taught pre-school, I see very little concerning signs from the children developmentally. They are beautiful, HEALTHY, happy children. Once again, they JUST turned five. If you go back and watch when they were four you can see a big difference in how they speak. They are much more articulate this year. Why are people so quick to pick on these children (really, the whole family)? Very few people could look as good as Kate in a bathing suit after two children--and she had eight. My younger brother had a couple of words he said "wrong" when he was around their age. Like some of the other posters said, you out grow it, go to therapy (if they do it is none of our business) or learn in regular school.
ReplyDeleteSweet Alexis makes me laugh, they are all so funny! I love this family and feel like I defend them everyday to someone. The article with Jon in People wasn't very interesting--but the little things he said about the kids was cute.
Thank You Baby Mama!
ReplyDeleteI just read that Jon and Kate's 10th year anniversary is on Friday the 12th. I wonder how that is going to work out? If they will be "together", etc.
ReplyDeleteJon wasn't visible, but we do not know if he was there or who brought Kate the bouquet that she was seen getting by a messenger...
ReplyDeleteMarriage, children, the overall dynamics of any relationship has alot of ups and downs. It is not what happens that matters, it is how you react to what happens that matters. I watch this show torn. Whether pro or con of this show, you have to admit, the "life" of the Gosselins is an example of every struggle, every incident of drama, or every moment of blessings is clearly shown in this show. What the public has to realize, whatever your stand on this show, Jon and Kate are just a young couple with eight children, who are living their lives the best they can with what life deals them. Has there been mistakes or regrets, of course. Should they learn from them and grow, of course. Have they? only Kate and Jon really know or should know. We have seen the ups and downs, but, not everything and we shouldn't to some degree. I beleive Jon and Kate have lost their way of their relationship, but every marriage goes through this. Let them have the privacy they need to come together or go apart. (but, of course, I pray for them to come together again because I loved to watch them and their love earlier in the show)Get away together as a couple, the realtionship has lost focus, because all the focus had been on the kids. The kids should be the first priority, but the relationship needs attention too. God Bless this family. I pray for the Gosselins to have peace and live life the best they can. However they and God choose for their path to take them.
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