tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post4197279518430881182..comments2023-11-02T10:51:19.449-04:00Comments on Welcome To The Gosselin Family Fan Site: Jon "Strikes Back" on Good Morning America, Recap of Dude Ranch & Dress Up & Watch Video Here!The Travel Momhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08652768852732313054noreply@blogger.comBlogger94125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-66390970967429949132009-09-06T23:56:43.484-04:002009-09-06T23:56:43.484-04:00People honestly were writing me saying I wasn'...People honestly were writing me saying I wasn't showing both sides, but honestly, this is how people feel right now. There have been many blogs that have turned around completely and said "yeah, I know why she did what she did. Why SHE was the one that controlled the finances". Or "Yeah, I feel for her now and have changed my feelings regarding Kate". Jon and his need for freedom and turning back the clock did all that. <br /><br />So we need to thank Jon for showing this suppressed side, because it has many so many now sympathize with Kate.The Travel Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08652768852732313054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-84372824046330828812009-09-06T21:41:24.952-04:002009-09-06T21:41:24.952-04:00Cindy you make such an amazing point! Maybe this i...Cindy you make such an amazing point! Maybe this is pretty much the same kate from the start. Her kids are older so she is more relaxed now. But maybe she is not much different than the other seasons. like you said we will never know.<br /><br />I am not trying to bash jon. I used to really think highly of the guy. I am a huge kate supporter, more now than i was before. but some may be able to turn a blind eye to his actions but i can't. I just can't imagine how much pain it would be to lose your spouse that way. He is inflicting the pain on kate and the family. He has lost my respect. I do wish that he would stop acting dumb and apologize to his family and try to repair the damage. Maybe I am foolish in hoping such things but i can't help it. I want him to fix things.Lesliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00487747224767131981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-33384334672526747222009-09-06T20:55:14.840-04:002009-09-06T20:55:14.840-04:00Barbara, I think it is refreshing to see women her...Barbara, I think it is refreshing to see women here supporting Kate, typically women are more inclined to eat their own. <br /><br />You'd be hard pressed to get a man to come right out and say some of the things you see people saying so freely here about another woman. I<br /><br />It's cool to see them supporting her. Jon is a douche, he is proving it more and more every day. How much did TLC cut that the viewers didn't see? People watched to see how 'bad' Kate treated Jon. It was all for ratings. How much did we not see that showed the Kate we see now? <br /><br />How much of the Jon we now see was always there but they cut it out to make him seem a victim of some overbearing wife?????? You will possibly never know.Cindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02915240333291697379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-64412005830493015702009-09-06T19:29:25.635-04:002009-09-06T19:29:25.635-04:00I just read on Radar that Jon got a new Mercedes B...I just read on Radar that Jon got a new Mercedes Benz SUV. Can't say I'm suprised! LOL! :o)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13332377124881260169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-45038441312917079782009-09-06T17:21:21.040-04:002009-09-06T17:21:21.040-04:00Barbara, I am disappointed in Jon because, in my o...Barbara, I am disappointed in Jon because, in my opinion, he started all of the ppeople problem. They were basically left alone by the paps until Jon started dallying with his chippie(s). Then it was a race to see who could get the juiciest pictures. Now, the family has to stage some pictures to get the paps to leave them alone other times. Kate said when they were at the beach that she would give the paps a certain time to get pictures if they would leave the family alone at other times. I believe that they do that at the house, also.jlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12906332002965742096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-47302186850250246242009-09-06T09:39:59.712-04:002009-09-06T09:39:59.712-04:00Barbara, I have never believed everything is/was h...Barbara, I have never believed everything is/was his fault. They both made mistakes in their marriage, as is quite typical of any marital breakdown.<br /><br />I can't speak for anyone else, but I think that we are now witnessing some pretty rotten actions and behaviors on his part and it speaks loudly about his character. Based on that, we tend to look back and realize perhaps he wasn't always the great guy we thought he was. And remember that Kate admitted in the first episode of this season that she knows she was too hard on Jon.<br /><br />I've always been a huge fan of Jon & Kate Plus 8., and enjoyed both Kate and Jon and their banter. But closing my eyes to cheating and lying just isn't possible.allibrootobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12518437335148812025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-58898138168218603312009-09-06T07:23:04.515-04:002009-09-06T07:23:04.515-04:00Barbara, SchmeckyGirl,
This is a very strong poin...Barbara, SchmeckyGirl,<br /><br />This is a very strong point you've brought across. And you are very right. If you are a Jon and Kate plus 8 fan, it's a great thing that you aren't taking one particular side and wanting to be objective about things. And I can now see why it may appear that both your comments may seem like you're strongly defending Jon. <br /><br />Before this whole fiasco happened, us fans were never a "either Kate team or Jon team". We were team "Jon and Kate Plus 8". In almost every episode, we flaws we saw in both of them. Kate is bossy and is sometimes such a stickler for cleanliness and organisation, while Jon was so laid back and unorganised to the point of really frustrating us. And you also saw that nasty words were thrown back and forth by BOTH parties. <br /><br />Despite all of these things, we still loved the show. Why? Because this was a real couple and a real family. It wasn't only the happy, sweet things we saw. We saw a real family sometimes struggling, but mostly managing this great team to bring achieve so much in life. More importantly, we saw love. In spite of all the hardship, we saw true family love. <br /><br />Now that this has happened, many of us can't help but yearn to find out what really happened and how could this happen. We voice what we feel and we do it strongly because we feel so much for this family. Fans aren't bashing Jon because they hate his guts. In fact, I wouldn't even call it bashing at all! But what they are doing is just voicing out all the disappointment at his poor choices and how it is adversely affecting the family. And this is painful to watch. <br /><br />I can't help but be really really angry with Jon. Whatever happened is a two-way thing and Kate has caused this as much as Jon has. But at the end of the day, it's painful to see that Jon was the one who chose to walk away. It would have been a respectable decision if he did so with more dignity and showed that this decision will improve things for both Kate and himself, as well as for the kids. <br /><br />What I see instead is a man who has alot of resentment and is acting out. Underneath it all, I think he is a better person than that and he has more love for Kate and the kids than what he portrays. But Jon has to really get over this immature way of acting out and learn to be the man that he should be and he can be.Raelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05258246715454757509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-82615095842402896062009-09-06T00:59:59.105-04:002009-09-06T00:59:59.105-04:00Promises Promises by Dionne Warwick
now that ages ...Promises Promises by Dionne Warwick<br />now that ages me (I was but a wee child LOL)<br /><br />that song comes to mind when it comes to a new post. LOL.<br /><br />Alas I am left with my favorite football team UW playing LSU. which is doing a good enough job raising my blood pressure thank you!Terrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00107450920376475898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-24392653414994834712009-09-05T20:17:04.254-04:002009-09-05T20:17:04.254-04:00I agree with Schmecky Girl. If this is indeed a J...I agree with Schmecky Girl. If this is indeed a Jon and Kate plus 8 fan site, then why is it so wrong to not think so harshly of Jon? I think he has made some mistakes, but for everyone who says that he should have confronted Kate while they were married, do you all remember when a conversation like that took place on one of the episodes and Kate admitted it wouldn't matter what he said or did, she would still want things done her way. I just really don't get why everything is his fault. Sincerely I don't.Mimi to 3https://www.blogger.com/profile/18063253338282153137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-74719716579410250062009-09-05T18:41:29.587-04:002009-09-05T18:41:29.587-04:00Scoutsmom: I think that would be awesome to have t...Scoutsmom: I think that would be awesome to have that shirt and get it signed. I don't think that it would seem stockerish. In fact I think that would be cooler than getting a photo of her signed. I also don't think that it would be disrespectful, I think that if anything it would show that you support her and are rooting for her to make it out of this mess unscathed<br /><br />PAR: those are some good points. That is why I respect kate sooooo much more now. She has been holding her head up hi. I just hope that she keeps her head up and keeps it respectful.<br /><br />Terri: I agree that it is painful to watch all the talk of abuse. I don't think that they were abusive, and i really don't think that kate was abusive at all. I do think that Jons comments were harsher and more cruel. But the word abuse is extreem for j & K's situation.Lesliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00487747224767131981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-38707805633655026062009-09-05T16:56:25.716-04:002009-09-05T16:56:25.716-04:00To Scout's Mom;
Having a shirt for her to sig...To Scout's Mom;<br /><br />Having a shirt for her to sign would be cool, but I wouldn't spell it K8 as I think that is the way they spell it on GWOP. Don't want to really go check.<br /><br />So I would just spell it Team Kate.tiggerfan1965https://www.blogger.com/profile/04189520385480240014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-54166204280904675262009-09-05T16:25:26.295-04:002009-09-05T16:25:26.295-04:00Terri~ Got your post, keeping it private between y...Terri~ Got your post, keeping it private between you and me ;)<br /><br />The one where you can figure out your tip at a restaurant for me has been the most helpful. I love having Facebook, and even saving my own site on it's own cute App! I also love using Fandango (for movies) and The Pandora Music store, I found accidentally thinking it was for buying my favorite Pandora charms!<br /><br />There was a time article recently that complained I Phone should do a better job organizing and explaining the hundreds of App they have so people can find them easier. The top 10 Best I Phone Apps are on this list (Including Pandora Music). See if any of these work for you!<br /><br />http://www.time.com/time/specials/2008/top10/article/0,30583,1855948_1863793,00.htmlThe Travel Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08652768852732313054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-65853133482274853992009-09-05T14:58:55.094-04:002009-09-05T14:58:55.094-04:00Thanks Baby Mama for putting the shows on your blo...Thanks Baby Mama for putting the shows on your blog! What a great episode as Kate continues to appear more relaxed and not demand perfection out of everyone. I think the "old" Kate would have never allowed her boys to try tasting those gross chicken feet.<br /><br />Knowing how much all the readers on this blog like and respect Kate, I'm hoping someone can give me an honest opinion on a debate I'm having with my husband. Here goes: I have a chance to see Kate at an upcoming event. She is going to answer questions and sign some autographs. I would LOVE to have a T-shirt with me that says "Team K8" and have her autograph it. However, I didn't know if this would appear <br />disrespectful - or on the tabloid watcher bandwagon. My husband says "Don't do it." I just want her to know how much I support her. But I think there is a fine line between looking like a supporter and looking like a crazy stalker person. <br /><br />Thanks for any input.Scout'sMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01911437049723692308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-64414252204212529612009-09-05T13:45:22.268-04:002009-09-05T13:45:22.268-04:00Terri~ That is so funny, I just switched from the ...Terri~ That is so funny, I just switched from the Blackberry and HAD to get the IPhone... had to get the pink cover and all the apps that my friends have. They really do come in handy! I can't get enough of them and the touch screen. It's my new toy this week and I LOVE IT!<br /><br />I'm sorry to everyone that I haven't been posting. We are off to the beach today with my hubby's Jet Ski that hes been dying to use since it was Winterized last year. The kids are having a last but thank goodness my mom's here, b/c the baby is everywhere! We never get the time to do any of these things anymore. And even now I am at the beach with my laptop. Tonight I will have a new post in when I get the kids to bed, I promise. I need to get my topcs together.. Any ideas? (lol)The Travel Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08652768852732313054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-72433144801039313562009-09-05T12:15:00.099-04:002009-09-05T12:15:00.099-04:00wow catching up on some interesting observations t...wow catching up on some interesting observations this morning. It is sad to see J continue to flounder; even the tabloids are catching him in his struggles to find himself.<br /><br />all the talk about the Abuse is painful to watch. Unless you have personally (and I really mean personally ie. me, myself or I)been involved in an abusive relationship; such talk and bantor can be kind of painfully disrespectful to those who have survived it. It is kind of like telling someone who's husband just died that You Know how they feel..... So as far as that topic (and as both Kate and J would say) I hope we can move forward.<br /><br />One thing I am laughing about this week (never enough laughter)..... I was given an IPhone this week for my birthday. Guess what cover I bought for it? you got it - pink.....<br /><br />I am so laughingly pathetic!Terrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00107450920376475898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-46951690454254945792009-09-05T11:42:04.643-04:002009-09-05T11:42:04.643-04:00Thanks Leslie! Sorry to hear about your cyst. That...Thanks Leslie! Sorry to hear about your cyst. That must have been hard to deal with in high school.:( <br /><br />That's why I guess I feel kinda of protective of Kate just in the fact that I understand how she feels. I am just thankful everyday that I didn't marry some one like Jon. My mother on the other hand thinks that Kate emasculated Jon. We have had quite a few arguments over that one! I think..you act like a kid...get treated like one!CraftyMomof3https://www.blogger.com/profile/17304173014954036424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-44241709238640517652009-09-05T11:26:31.486-04:002009-09-05T11:26:31.486-04:00Kate was far from perfect in the marriage; she adm...Kate was far from perfect in the marriage; she admitted to being hard on Jon. She does have an organized and controlling personality and likes things done her way. Jon was far from perfect in the marriage either. He was very passive aggressive so that nasty comments were under his breath or subtle. And yet there were enough scenes of Jon yelling at Kate so it is clear it went both ways. I remember an espidode where Mady told the camera that Kate was "a queen bee who never got off the chair" and it was clear she was repeating what her Dad had said off camera.<br /><br />All of that is water under the bridge. I think focusing on their behavior since the marriage fell apart, Kate has acted far more responsibly.<br /><br />She was not the one that brought the tabloid attention on them - Jon did. She was not the one who went to family members to spread gossip only to see them sell it to the highest bidder. She is not the one publicly dating several people. She is not the one who prevented the other from seeing the kids on their "time." She is not the one buying expensive gifts for someone else. She is not the way making statements biting the hand that feeds them and trying to backtrack in the media.<br /><br />Kate is the one worrying about supporting the kids financially. She is the one who has established college funds for the kids. She is the one who comes across as far classier tPARhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09640267099424891666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-23543684908539014882009-09-05T10:33:32.191-04:002009-09-05T10:33:32.191-04:00Amen to Leslie and Allibrootob!Amen to Leslie and Allibrootob!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-7659397308717146922009-09-05T01:05:07.241-04:002009-09-05T01:05:07.241-04:00Yeah, Leslie, my point was that when Jon got to Ve...Yeah, Leslie, my point was that when Jon got to Vegas he was asked if he was going to gamble and he said "no, I don't gamble" and then he did. Guess he changed his principles on that, too.jlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12906332002965742096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-71730410881659653112009-09-05T00:41:43.040-04:002009-09-05T00:41:43.040-04:00Holliday, I found the clip you were referring to a...Holliday, I found the clip you were referring to about Jon helping Kate get out of bed and I believe you misinterpreted it. It looked like she needed to get up (bathroom?) and he just rushed it a bit. I didn't see anything "abusive" in it. It's hard to help someone who's had tummy surgery. I've had 3 different ones. Watching that episode almost made me cry because I could see the love between them then. And it was only about, what, 4 years ago?jlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12906332002965742096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-88452429065936950702009-09-05T00:26:08.407-04:002009-09-05T00:26:08.407-04:00allibrootob as always I agree with you! very well ...allibrootob as always I agree with you! very well put. couldn't have said it better myself.<br /><br />JL: Jon posted on his twitter page a picture of him in vegas drinking and playing, i think the slots. <br /><br />craftymomof3: I am sorry to hear that you have pcos, I can't imagine how that must be. I have had an ovarian cist before. I was in high school and I could barely take the pain. Your right about the fatigue, I missed so many classes. My mom literally could not wake me up. I remember her screaming in my face and shaking me one day, she said i scared her to death. I looked at her and rolled over and was out again. <br /><br />Holliday: I remember that, her face was cringing at the pain.Lesliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00487747224767131981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-72276370570400201822009-09-04T23:42:56.633-04:002009-09-04T23:42:56.633-04:00TMZ just played a clip of Jon coming back from Las...TMZ just played a clip of Jon coming back from Las Vegas in which he said he won $2000. Then they played a clip when he got to Vegas in which he was asked if he was going to gamble and he said he didn't gamble.jlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12906332002965742096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-45441582482930180112009-09-04T20:39:37.949-04:002009-09-04T20:39:37.949-04:00Neither Jon nor Kate were perfect in their marriag...Neither Jon nor Kate were perfect in their marriage, as Kate has attested to on different occasions. Yes, both Jon and Kate made negative comments to one another about losing weight, losing hair, coloring hair, etc, etc, etc. As far as I'm concerned that can all be water under the bridge. Marriage is tough. Marriage with multiples is tougher (I can personally relate). But marriages with higher order multiples must be met with challenges most of us couldn't even imagine.<br /><br />HOWEVER............I really think Jon was being unfaithful and it all started to unravel when he finally got caught. And what has transpired since then has been indicative of who they both are and what their characters are truly like. Simply stated, Kate has maintained composure, grace under fire and constant reliability for her children.<br /><br />Jon has been immature, lazy, unreliable, inconsistent (with his stories) and various other less-than-virtuous qualities. <br /><br />Now who did what in the marriage will never be truly known to any of us, but based on what we've learned about them in times of stress,and if Kate was dealing with any of the characteristics Jon is now displaying, even in moderation, God help that marriage right from the start!!!!!!!allibrootobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12518437335148812025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-60296900103092432962009-09-04T14:05:51.931-04:002009-09-04T14:05:51.931-04:00Loverly - you are right about "lame duck"...Loverly - you are right about "lame duck" being the expression Jon probably intended but the fish came out of his mouth before his brain got a grip. That happens with him a lot. And you are also right, that "lame duck" is not exactly what he was trying to say either.<br /><br />However, as to the whole "abuse" thing. I have one memory of the show that cut me when I saw it the first time and flashed back when he used the word.<br /><br />When Kate was lying in bed at their house after her tummy tuck and he wanted her to get up to do something. He was trying to pull her out of bed and she said, "Jon." "I'm not ready." But he dragged her up and out to accomplish something (I don't remember what). I just kept (and keep) thinking about how much pain she was probably experiencing. Tummy tucks require cutting muscle and nerve tissue. It hurts at lot. (Haven't had one but can imagine). He just didn't care about her physical pain at all. <br /><br />There is abuse and there is abuse. He read too much of the GWOP site and believed what they were saying. He is trying too hard to defend himself after showing the world the real Jon.<br /><br />I said it before. He will crash and burn big time. Sad for his children to witness...HOLLI DAYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13894858685689162937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-73678680703335143002009-09-04T13:56:42.446-04:002009-09-04T13:56:42.446-04:00schmeckygirl, I said in earlier comments that I do...schmeckygirl, I said in earlier comments that I don't think that the word abuse should be used. Because I don't think that they were abusive but people kept wanting to use that word so i was stating that i don't think that Jon was anybetter in any of the situations. What a said about him saying he likes blondes better, I was trying to refer it to his trainer. I said i wonder how long jon has had a wondering eye. because he nicknamed that blonde woman and he never gave kate a nickname. and he likes blondes alot so that was a red flag<br /><br />I think that things that jon said to kate were usually about her personality and her looks. also he always rolled his eyes and would make gestures that are just plane rude and disrespectful. Kate would say things about him getting to work or hurry and do that. My point is that jon is no better and people need to stop degrading kate. She always respected her husband, she just has a MAJOR type A personality. <br /><br />Him waking up early in the mornings to get the kids off to school earns no badge of honor in my eyes. She deserved to sleep in. she always slaved over the stove so that her family could have a hot meal she always washed the laundry and she washed the kitchen and the kitchen floor 3 times a day so that her kids would not get sick. Him getting up early was good and when he bathed the kids that was good. but kate has always worked harder and put her family first I wish i could say that about jon but that is just not the case nowLesliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00487747224767131981noreply@blogger.com