tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post2749039067154850787..comments2023-11-02T10:51:19.449-04:00Comments on Welcome To The Gosselin Family Fan Site: Wanted: YOUR Comments, Watch Funny Kids Lines! Kate Plus 8 Back From Alaska! Jon's Twitter ObsessionThe Travel Momhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08652768852732313054noreply@blogger.comBlogger119125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-81133453785589592292010-08-03T20:15:37.738-04:002010-08-03T20:15:37.738-04:00Good evening everyone! I'm so sorry the paper ...Good evening everyone! I'm so sorry the paper got so stale. It's been a busy, stressful work day for me. Just want you to bring this great converstation regarding Jon over to the new post. Todays fresh paper is coutesy of this amazing Greek Restaurant I'm getting take out from tonight. The smell of the Gyro is making my stomach growl. If you are Vegan or a Vegetarian, then the aroma of the crisp lettuce and tomatoes are just for you! lolThe Travel Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08652768852732313054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-66125992711399641952010-08-03T20:03:04.464-04:002010-08-03T20:03:04.464-04:00Welcome SarahJ! You are soo true! The fact that na...Welcome SarahJ! You are soo true! The fact that nasty ignornat JW still tries to post here even though shes such a psycho speaks volumes. People want to hate Kate so much, that they think the kids are crying because they hate their mother.. Are you kidding me? It's called missing their father. My kids do it every day and we are a loving happy familyThe Travel Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08652768852732313054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-31888568152713996072010-08-03T19:13:28.721-04:002010-08-03T19:13:28.721-04:00To those who are saying that the kids tears prove ...To those who are saying that the kids tears prove that they would rather be with Jon - how do they know that they don't cry when Kate leaves them? Kate doesn't get paid by the paps so I guess we will never know, and rightfully so.sarah jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16755599331460219203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-72321611589369067382010-08-03T18:07:45.604-04:002010-08-03T18:07:45.604-04:00We have a small video production and marketing com...We have a small video production and marketing company. All of the camera operators use both video and still cameras. I've seen some of them also with a third camera around the neck hanging on the back so they can swop out still camera bodies with close up and medium to long telephoto lenses. I'm not coordinated enough to do that but they do. Their job is to get the shots. (My little iPhone will take both movies and stills although not at the same time but probably an app to do that also.) Paparazzi get paid for footage shot and sold; they don't want to miss an opportunity.Linda "Original"https://www.blogger.com/profile/13379321670033802865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-44356100661920850732010-08-03T18:02:10.901-04:002010-08-03T18:02:10.901-04:00Divorce is nasty. Kids have a very hard time with ...Divorce is nasty. Kids have a very hard time with turnovers. My kids loved me and they also loved their father. They want to be with BOTH parents. Little kids cry and it breaks your heart. Every time. It doesn't get easier. <br /><br />Parents can prepare kids by saying things such as, "It's been great to be with you and we'll be together again in two weeks and do something fantastic. Let's both count the days and think about the fun time we'll have." This reassures that you will be back and you'll both look forward to it.<br /><br />Or, parents can say, "Oh my God I'm gonna miss you so much it breaks my heart and I just want to cry." (ok my ex did this until His friend actually told him it was a jerk thing to do and made kids cry.) <br /><br />You look for ways to make the turnover easier. It amazes me how many people blamed Kate for this. Just amazing. The last custody agreement laid out visitation, terms etc. We don't really even know if Jon didn't say something like "It's easier for me to say goodbye at the gate with kids in van than leave them at the house." Yes, Kate could have said, "You cannot do this." We just don't know.<br /><br />We do know that Jon had Michael Lohan there, Kate's brother and sister-in-law, a group of his family and friends for a cookout - - those things after the divorce. We do know that before the divorce we had the photos of Deanna sunbathing, Stephanie babysitter gate, paparazzi in the back field area with the yard equipment shots. <br /><br />Who knows?? We don't. It still just breaks your heart. Perhaps a judge/mediator will suggest that the transfer take place in an enclosed paparazzi free area.Linda "Original"https://www.blogger.com/profile/13379321670033802865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-56658563425261645742010-08-03T17:57:33.702-04:002010-08-03T17:57:33.702-04:00Thanks for the clarifying lesson on photography. ...Thanks for the clarifying lesson on photography. I didn't know.Mary Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13890444914629725658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-16200174156801183682010-08-03T17:43:06.011-04:002010-08-03T17:43:06.011-04:00Linda,
Good point about the still shots and the ...Linda, <br /><br />Good point about the still shots and the video footage happening simultaneously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-53847300805120600942010-08-03T17:42:40.238-04:002010-08-03T17:42:40.238-04:00Oh, we did hear Jon apologize to the pap for rolli...Oh, we did hear Jon apologize to the pap for rolling up the window so he could "call the house." Why, would you do that and not say, "Back off." I owe my kids a heck of a lot some than I'd ever owe some jerk paparazzi, even if he'd paid me.Linda "Original"https://www.blogger.com/profile/13379321670033802865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-3807523438042891672010-08-03T17:37:56.974-04:002010-08-03T17:37:56.974-04:00Hi Mary Ann. I think if he had let the pap get any...Hi Mary Ann. I think if he had let the pap get any closer it would have been like the bus top pickup last year when the same pap (same voice) was shooting the interior of the car with the twins after Jon left the door open. The twins at that time, asked him to "Dad, please go. Dad close the door." <br /><br />Unfortunately, yes you can do video and stills with just one photographer. Take a look at the video of Kate at the organic market putting the groceries into the trunk. You sight and begin the video camera looking into the viewfinder on the top; it's on a strap on your neck and camera rests on your chest. Then you use the still camera to shoot. <br /><br />You can hear his motorscooter putt putt as he rolls up to door and back on left side. He's got his feet on the ground to balance and then is moving up and back. Short break until Jon gets to other side of van and opens door. Camera man follows car through fence - nobody else in forward view. Camera man swings following Jon to other car - nobody else in view in other direction.<br /><br />We have no idea what Jon said on the phone. We have no idea if Kate was even there or not. We don't know if he asked the nanny to come to the gate to get the car. <br /><br />We do know that Jon never asked him to stop. He never even glared at him.Linda "Original"https://www.blogger.com/profile/13379321670033802865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-74050068500272264582010-08-03T17:34:28.801-04:002010-08-03T17:34:28.801-04:00Mary Ann,
After I watched it again, I thought I he...Mary Ann,<br />After I watched it again, I thought I heard, “Daddy don’t close the door” too and I agree about there being two paps. <br /><br />Everyone,<br />I also wonder if there really is a rule set by Kate or if Jon, himself, didn’t want to drive all the way, especially because he had his friend waiting there to drive him home. This could all be speculation that she made a rule about the drop off. Did I miss something? Do we know she has this rule?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-11907969455923663902010-08-03T17:10:38.479-04:002010-08-03T17:10:38.479-04:00I want to think fairly. Comments to my post requi...I want to think fairly. Comments to my post required me to go back and watch again. I haven't read any of the twitter stuff. I don't know the facts. I don't know if Jon or Kate inform paps of events. I think there may have been two paps there -- one snapping the still pictures and one doing the video, one person could not do both simultaneously. I do believe that Kate made a rule (from anger or frustration) that Jon can not pick up or deliver on the property. He probably did abuse his parental rights by bringing a girlfriend onto the property. But, couldn't Kate just ask that he come alone to get the kids. Then he could go all the way up the lane to the privacy behind the newly planted trees. I don't know what triggered the kid's deep distress. I don't think that Jon should have yelled, "Enough." I did see him trying to soothe the kids. I think if he staged the event, he could have gotten much worse footage by letting the photographer closer to the interior. Mostly, we saw Jon's butt as he leaned in to hug the kids. I listed carefully -- three time -- I thought that I heard one of the boys wailing, "Daddy, don't close the door." The twins both seemed very subdued and sad. Jon gave each of them very long hugs. My opinion is that Jon and Kate need to co-operate to make visitation easier for the kids they both love. I wish to enjoy watching this special family, I don't wish to see such pain and distress.Mary Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13890444914629725658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-48631339801219599762010-08-03T16:54:33.494-04:002010-08-03T16:54:33.494-04:00OK, What is INF again? I can't remember how t...OK, What is INF again? I can't remember how to find it. Duh, I want to watch that Video, it sounds crazy! Help me out here!#1caregiverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07070571518943584981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-9673265751762388342010-08-03T15:42:08.894-04:002010-08-03T15:42:08.894-04:00Yes Linda it's obvious it was staged but the p...Yes Linda it's obvious it was staged but the people that hate Kate will never believe that.Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05154937125326325847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-41845180826162528672010-08-03T15:41:11.582-04:002010-08-03T15:41:11.582-04:00Baby Mama I get a kick out of some of these people...Baby Mama I get a kick out of some of these people. They get all upset if Kate yells at the kids and will carry and remember that moment of being impatient for years and years and keep bringing it up and yet let Jon yell at the kids like he did this morning and there isn't a single peep out of them, just blasting Kate because Jon can't drop the kids off at the front door. Jon blew that privilege when he let his girlfriends on to the property and into her and the kids home. Parents get upset and yell at their kids from time to time so I'm not upset that Jon yelled at them, just the hypocrisy that Kate yells and she gets crucified but Jon yells and not a word out of them.Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05154937125326325847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-28617001635730373352010-08-03T15:37:53.653-04:002010-08-03T15:37:53.653-04:00Strange video. Cried when I first saw it. Watch it...Strange video. Cried when I first saw it. Watch it twice more and then got angry.<br />Doggone right it is staged.<br />1. It is the voice of Jon's pap friend. Remember? The one that he used to let up at the house to do photos.<br />2. Jon never once, looks at him and says "Back off."<br />3. Jon can't hear over the pap's motorbike so has to roll up the window.<br />4. He know doggone well that pap is standing there. So what does he do? He walks around the van and leaves the frigging door open.(yep I'm steaming mad when I talk like this1)<br />5. He ignores the children saying "Close the door, Daddy."<br />6. The video says it is "Exclusive INF and says it was taken 'yesterday'". Not a single other pap was there. Not a one!!! Just Jon's friend. Some doggone friend. <br />7. Jon follows up with Tweets: FIRST: Dropped my kids off, had a blast with them. I miss them already!! Then follows up with: "Upset that Paps were there when i(sic) dropped kids off, wish my goodbyes could be kept off camera!!"<br />8. There were no PAPS plural! There was only one PAP and that was Jon's 'old friend from INF. <br />Please. Go watch it a second time. A third time. A fourth time. You can't do it without crying but you sure as heck hear words!!!!!<br />7. Jon leavesLinda "Original"https://www.blogger.com/profile/13379321670033802865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-598401110273539192010-08-03T15:37:24.189-04:002010-08-03T15:37:24.189-04:00wildchild what several of us got was that the kids...wildchild what several of us got was that the kids were saying "Daddy shut the door" and that's because the kids don't like the paps as we know so Jon got mad and told them to "cut it out" and slammed the door shut Now he did give the older twins are real nice hug which was sweet. There were quite a few kids yelling and crying and they also could have been over tired if they had stayed up late and didn't get a good nights sleep on the floor of Jon's apartment. But the fact is that the kids didn't want the paps there but Jon had his personal pap there from INF taking photos and filming the kids. Then Jon's pap "ad libs" the junk about the kids being upset that daddy's leaving when that's not what the kids were upset about. They were upset about the paps there.Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05154937125326325847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-38450717923485072642010-08-03T15:33:38.719-04:002010-08-03T15:33:38.719-04:00Sorry I read the twitter wrong and it was who Jon ...Sorry I read the twitter wrong and it was who Jon was tweeting that said she works at the arcade. <br /><br />I honestly think Jon took the kids to the arcade so that HE could play the games. From the virtual tour of the place there is only one game kids that age could play with. I'm betting Jon plays the games and the kids watch while he plays and with his tickets from the games he gives the kids prizes. It has to be boring just standing around watching daddy play games like he does at home and maybe that's why the older twins don't want to go with Jon any longer because it's too boring to watch daddy play games for himself all the time. Why couldn't he take them to play mini golf, something that all eight could play?Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05154937125326325847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-92140554320795950722010-08-03T15:31:48.473-04:002010-08-03T15:31:48.473-04:00Lexxi~ I agree, why do people think that this is s...Lexxi~ I agree, why do people think that this is some sort of "punishment"? See this is a situation where because people dislike Kate so they automatically feel that she is doing this intentionally. Seeing the glass half full and looking into it more I think Jon is looking for positive PR after looking bad for making fun of Kate on his Twitter account only a day or two ago. Who to beleive?<br /><br />But I'm glad MaryAnn spoke from her heart because it's interesting to see what people think including myself without knowing the entire situation. Who knows though. People will think what they want to.The Travel Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08652768852732313054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-27843584793236445502010-08-03T15:30:36.300-04:002010-08-03T15:30:36.300-04:00Lexxi, did they really ask him to shut the door? ...Lexxi, did they really ask him to shut the door? I couldn't turn it up so I couldn't hear that they were saying that!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-22865431400050325652010-08-03T15:29:48.881-04:002010-08-03T15:29:48.881-04:00I have to wonder if there is some reason Jon isn&#...I have to wonder if there is some reason Jon isn't coming to the door. That whole video had some kind of creepy staged effect to it. I really don't think the cameras would have been that close if jon hadn't set it up that way. Jon also could have egged that reaction to be worse than usual by saying things like your Mommy won't let me see you for a long time or something like that. We also don't know if they aren't having the same reactions when their mother leaves them. <br />Many divorced parents find it easier for kids to transfer the kids through either a third party or a neutral place like school or daycare. Kids have a hard time transfering loyalty sometimes. It is one of those situations where pictures many things especially when we don't know the context. I just think Jon is trying some kind of sympathy ploy or somethingtashaporkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02614153610713537018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-26804897999358230292010-08-03T15:26:53.827-04:002010-08-03T15:26:53.827-04:00Hello MaryAnn! Thank you for the post. I just star...Hello MaryAnn! Thank you for the post. I just started to read that and I'm a bit concerned that Jon is intentionally trying to make Kate look bad so that he can get sympathy. Are we even sure that it's a FACT Kate refrused to let him drop off the kids at the house? <br /><br />First of all they live and breathe to get the shots anyway and even if Jon dropped them off at the door they would photgraph it. After all the mean things Jon has publically been saying I smell this story not bring accurate. I would take it with a grain of salt. I will look into this and into it more on my new post tonight! <br /><br />Thanks for the comment!The Travel Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08652768852732313054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-65434721792511845792010-08-03T15:23:46.755-04:002010-08-03T15:23:46.755-04:00Mary Ann said...
Hey, I am sorry guys. I have rea...Mary Ann said... <br />Hey, I am sorry guys. I have really enjoyed reading here, but today I saw the INF video of Jon dropping off the kids. It is so sad. I don't care what Kate wears, or how she does her hair and nails. I enjoyed watching her and the kids on the show. <br />--------------<br />Mary Ann doesn't it bother you that Jon had called his personal pap from INF to do the photos and the film this morning of the kids? Jon is the one that blew it by having the kids dropped off at the door by bringing Ellen to Kate and the kids home and still have photos taken. Outside or inside the gate Jon will want photos taken. At least Kate can stop this crap on their doorstep. <br /><br />Doesn't it bother you that the fact that the kids were crying "Daddy close the door" bother you when they didn't want the paps or Jon's pap filming the drop off? How do you feel that instead of consoling the kids the fact is that Jon yelled at them to "cut it out" and then slamming the van door shut actually irritated not crying? Watch the video again and listen carefully and it was obvious the kids didn't want all the paps attention and instead Jon yelled at the kids instead of consoling them. Sure kids are upset also to say goodbye to daddy but let's be honest here, Jon doesn't want custody that often. He would rather spend time with Ellen and play games at home. <br /><br />Doesn't it also bother you that he is lying to the public and saying on his twitter that he works at that gaming place? From his twitters it's obvious he is home all day watching movies and playing Farmville and twittering. Let's be real here. I hoped that Jon would change but it's obvious he is up to his old games again and hasn't changed a bit.Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05154937125326325847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-33775377593738094122010-08-03T15:23:04.134-04:002010-08-03T15:23:04.134-04:00Good afternoon everyone! I know I haven't been...Good afternoon everyone! I know I haven't been around lately. I needed to take a step back and try the best way to deal with all the conflicting views on this site. It was also important to me to not take out the shotgun to the trolls that invade here.. take a deep breath & exhale. <br /><br />While trying to get more fans to post so we don't have this issue in the first place, some took it upon themselves to once again try to sneak in and invade the blog. It's always been a fine line between friends I have made here and those that are truly out to sneak onto this blog to cause trouble. To my friends I know who you are, so please don't worry. I just ask that you continue to respect the fans that are here because in essence you are showing repect to me and my wishes for my site. <br /><br />In closing, it's been so great to have my friends here who have continued to be supportive and loyal to the site and I thank you. I also welcome all the new first timers that have added a small spark of energy. I hope you can understand that Im greedy and want more! With the Gosselin "quiet time" it's always great to see that people are still reading..still there. Are we ready for some fresh soon? lolThe Travel Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08652768852732313054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-26786135386224061692010-08-03T15:15:13.627-04:002010-08-03T15:15:13.627-04:00Hey, I am sorry guys. I have really enjoyed readi...Hey, I am sorry guys. I have really enjoyed reading here, but today I saw the INF video of Jon dropping off the kids. It is so sad. I don't care what Kate wears, or how she does her hair and nails. I enjoyed watching her and the kids on the show. I wanted to believe that being a mom was important to her. But, NO loving mom would allow her anger toward Jon to create such difficult visitation circumstances. Those kids should be dropped off at the door -- away from paps. They should be greeted by their mom. The pain of the kids was overwhelming to hear. I think that the pap could have gotten more personal footage and even he kept a distance. Jon looked near tears. The twins hugged with a quiet desperation. I should not be seeing such private family grief. Kate needs to set aside her punishment of Jon and allow him, at least, inside the gates. She should do this as a kindness for her children. I think any loving mom would think kids first, ex relationship second.Mary Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13890444914629725658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1914552682332144225.post-30569955040275115752010-08-03T14:22:25.754-04:002010-08-03T14:22:25.754-04:00Oh and I’m sure the fact that they are sad to leav...Oh and I’m sure the fact that they are sad to leave him will translate to some people that they hate being with Kate. I can see the comments now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com